# How things have changed...
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [March 11, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298 "2015-03-11T04:26:09Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@Marcius](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marcius)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/21 "2015-03-16T15:00:18Z")
> [@Dif-e-Yo](#):
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> As the OP mentioned, not everyone keeps up with everything that going on :wink:
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> I’m still here working quietly in the background ;D
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> HSpin and SPYY, sadly, have retired/stopped making yoyos sometime in last 2 years or so 😢
> There’s still demand for Dif-Pads, just not much for use in most modern yoyos.
> FYI, Many Dif-e-Yo models released since 2008 starting with the Dave Schulte Internal Turmoil Signature Model are machined for Silicone or pads of choice/silicone pads.
> Also, everything is confidential at this point, but there have been a few new Dif-e-Yo yoyos in the works for some time now.
> Be on the lookout for release sometime this year 2015.
> That’s all for now ;D
> Best Regards to all, Frank
Thanks for the update Frank. You’re right, I haven’t been keeping up with yoyo news - I’ve recently come back from a long hiatus myself. Looking forward to the new Difs!
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### Author:  [@Dif-e-Yo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dif-e-Yo)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/22 "2015-03-16T17:57:36Z")
> [@Marcius](#):
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> Thanks for the update Frank. You’re right, I haven’t been keeping up with yoyo news - I’ve recently come back from a long hiatus myself. Looking forward to the new Difs!
You’re Welcome ;D
I have a hard time keeping up even when I try … lol
Best Regards, Frank
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### Author:  [@fluffypuppies](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fluffypuppies)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2015, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/23 "2015-03-20T12:47:02Z")
That was a pretty epic summary. Thanks everyone.
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/24 "2015-03-20T13:45:57Z")
> [@Dif-e-Yo](#):
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> You’re Welcome ;D
> I have a hard time keeping up even when I try … lol
> Best Regards, Frank
An update to the Tank would be awesome!!
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### Author:  [@GregB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregB)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/25 "2015-03-23T17:41:25Z")
As someone who has just come back to yoyoing after decades away I was amazed by these things:
Fixed axel is back? I didn’t know it was gone until I learned about modern yoyos with bearings.
I had no idea that 3a, 4a, and 5a styles existed. I really want to try 4a some day.
The only name in yoyo 40 years ago was Duncan. Today there are half a dozen companies seriously competing with Duncan. Some may say that Yoyo Factory has surpassed them. However, Duncan does make some very good yoyos at a good price point so they’re not out of the game by any means.
It seems that the average 12 year old can kick my behind in yoyo tricks.
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### Author:  [@theappe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theappe)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/26 "2015-08-10T20:29:32Z")
> [@GregB](#):
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> As someone who has just come back to yoyoing after decades away I was amazed by these things:
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> Fixed axel is back? I didn’t know it was gone until I learned about modern yoyos with bearings.
>
> I had no idea that 3a, 4a, and 5a styles existed. I really want to try 4a some day.
>
> The only name in yoyo 40 years ago was Duncan. Today there are half a dozen companies seriously competing with Duncan. Some may say that Yoyo Factory has surpassed them. However, Duncan does make some very good yoyos at a good price point so they’re not out of the game by any means.
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> It seems that the average 12 year old can kick my behind in yoyo tricks.
I’m gonna go with most yoyo’s used today are not Duncan.
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### Author:  [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/27 "2015-08-11T13:41:31Z")
Yoyos gradually become wider, more stable, long spinning instrument that perform stupidly easy very well compared to how things was back then.
Hybrid is no more… but… but… I still play my Speeder.
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### Author:  [@Shadowspectre](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowspectre)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2015, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/28 "2015-08-12T02:57:09Z")
Well string wise, there’s this 50/50 string. It’s cotton and polyester, but I still stick to cotton. There’s all polyester too. Yoyo wise, the best one out there is the yoyojam phenom. Hiroyuki Suzuki designed it, and since he’s like the best yoyoer to ever hit the scene, it has to be good. I haven’t gotten to play one because it’s over 100 dollars. Jeez that’s a lot for a yoyo. Response wise, I still use cork material brake pads. Some people have upgraded to silicone pads. I played them once, I like them. I think they’ll really catch on, most newer yoyos have them.
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### Author:  [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2015, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/29 "2015-08-12T04:37:34Z")
> [@Shadowspectre](#):
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> Well string wise, there’s this 50/50 string. It’s cotton and polyester, but I still stick to cotton. There’s all polyester too. Yoyo wise, the best one out there is the yoyojam phenom. Hiroyuki Suzuki designed it, and since he’s like the best yoyoer to ever hit the scene, it has to be good. I haven’t gotten to play one because it’s over 100 dollars. Jeez that’s a lot for a yoyo. Response wise, I still use cork material brake pads. Some people have upgraded to silicone pads. I played them once, I like them. I think they’ll really catch on, most newer yoyos have them.
Now that’s funny how you can say that it’s good but have never played it, just because it’s designed by any world champ doesn’t mean it will always be good.
To be fair however, I own one, it IS really good.
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### Author:  [@AngryGumball](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AngryGumball)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2015, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/30 "2015-08-12T06:01:44Z")
So here’s what happened with me a few times now. I went from the 2000s to 2009 without really yoyoing at all, picked up my first “modern” yoyo in 2010. I had no clue what made a capable yoyo these days other than bearing and wing shape. I didn’t know about gap width, response systems, or any of that. During this time, yoyos still had kind of high walls, had hubs, had wide friction stickers or silicone grooves. I take a pause in 2012 as I kind of got stuck in a rut and never really progressed.
Fast forward to 2015 when I decide to pick up my Shutter (I still attended BAC during my break) and learn some new stuff. Finger spins are in, yoyos don’t have “nipples” anymore but concave cups, walls are virtually nonexistent, and now you have aluminum yoyos with steel rings that are the rage in the competition scene. Friction stickers are now a thing of the past (which I’m glad, never was a fan of them)
Certain companies are gone (Like…I was wondering what happened to RecRev, but we won’t discuss that), and YYF is pumping out awesome throws at mid-range prices…and YYF seems to be the “New Duncan” so to speak as far as getting yoyos mainstream and having very modern throws to work with (Sorry Duncan, you still have some nice throws, but, there are better options compared to the beginner line of yoyos.)
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### Author:  [@Shadowspectre](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowspectre)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2015, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/31 "2015-08-12T12:47:13Z")
> [@rizki\_yoist](#):
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> Now that’s funny how you can say that it’s good but have never played it, just because it’s designed by any world champ doesn’t mean it will always be good.
> To be fair however, I own one, it IS really good.
I was joking. The phenom was the best a while ago, most everybody uses all polyester string, and cork brake pads are pretty much non-existent in modern yoyos. Hiroyuki Suzuki is no longer the world champion either. 100+ dollar yoyos are no longer “jeez that’s expensive” yoyos. Plus I posted that at like 11:30 at night, my joke seemed a lot more amusing then ;D
Really though, I have never played a phenom. I’m saving up for a phenomizm though.
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### Author:  [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-things-have-changed/73298/32 "2015-08-12T16:34:25Z")
> [@Shadowspectre](#):
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> I was joking… Plus I posted that at like 11:30 at night, my joke seemed a lot more amusing then
Yeah, funny how your perception changes in the light of day. When I first read your post I thought maybe you lived in a cave somewhere.
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