# How many people know what this yoyo is? (original Duracraft ProYo) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [January 22, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800 "2019-01-22T00:37:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![photogeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/photogeek/32/41072_2.png) [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/1 "2019-01-22T00:37:20Z")
_I was going to post this in the “What are you throwing in 2019” thread. But then I thought it might be more fun on its own._ Today’s throw. I’m curious how many people recognize it. I can think of a couple here who probably do, The brass thumb-nut is a dead giveaway to anyone who has seen one. But it’s a fairly old throw (older than a decent chunk of members here) and despite holding a fairly important place in yoyo history, is not that well known. EDIT: if you do happen to know, perhaps just reply with an “I know what it is!” and let some of the other folks guess first. EDIT 2: Added the name into the title for future search results ![whatisthisyoyo](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/8/d/c8db03132edee324ac7724022ca059cd0bd4333e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![HotcakesTheMemeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hotcakesthememegod/32/46138_2.png) [@HotcakesTheMemeGod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HotcakesTheMemeGod)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/2 "2019-01-22T00:46:29Z")
I know what it is and I have one ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/3 "2019-01-22T01:18:27Z")
Looks like a Duncan dragonfly or something similar ---
**Author:** ![yofanatic05](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yofanatic05/32/35770_2.png) [@yofanatic05](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yofanatic05)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/4 "2019-01-22T02:24:41Z")
I looked up the patent number, but it didn’t say what the yoyo was called. I did find out the maker and year of release though. 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![photogeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/photogeek/32/41072_2.png) [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/5 "2019-01-22T02:47:06Z")
> [@yofanatic05](#): > > I looked up the patent number, but it didn’t say what the yoyo was called. I did find out the maker and year of release though You know, I almost blurred the number out for exactly that reason. Funny. ---
**Author:** ![photogeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/photogeek/32/41072_2.png) [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/6 "2019-01-22T02:53:14Z")
> [@hobbygod](#): > > Looks like a Duncan dragonfly or something similar Nope. There is a connection to Duncan though, sort of. ---
**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/7 "2019-01-22T03:14:03Z")
Playmaxx cough, cough, I’ve got a couple. That thing needs a Higby paint job. ---
**Author:** ![photogeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/photogeek/32/41072_2.png) [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/8 "2019-01-22T03:35:03Z")
> [@Grendel](#): > > Playmaxx cough, cough Well, technically…no. It isn’t, actually. But only “technically”. ---
**Author:** ![Marm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/marm/32/46204_2.png) [@Marm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/9 "2019-01-22T05:13:03Z")
I KNOW WHAT IT IS EVERYONE! A blue yo-yo. 🤯 ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/10 "2019-01-22T05:55:56Z")
Was this released before or after I was born 🤷‍♂️ Also, am I going to do the same thing with a pic of a Draupnir in 20 years :thinking: ---
**Author:** ![slinging101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slinging101/32/41111_2.png) [@slinging101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/slinging101)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/11 "2019-01-22T07:33:10Z")
I know what it is ---
**Author:** ![ThrowButcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwbutcher/32/54388_2.png) [@ThrowButcher](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ThrowButcher)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/12 "2019-01-22T09:51:20Z")
I know what it is… But I kinda cheated ---
**Author:** ![c0dy46](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/c0dy46/32/47755_2.png) [@c0dy46](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/c0dy46)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/13 "2019-01-22T10:02:39Z")
I’m pretty sure I still have a couple buried somewhere 😁 ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/14 "2019-01-22T15:49:39Z")
I think I have more than a few buried in my basement :joy: ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/15 "2019-01-22T17:42:28Z")
It says what the yoyo is in the name of the picture haha ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/16 "2019-01-22T18:12:18Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > It says what the yoyo is in the name of the picture Well spoil it for everyone else :joy: ---
**Author:** ![photogeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/photogeek/32/41072_2.png) [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/17 "2019-01-22T18:25:41Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > It says what the yoyo is in the name of the picture haha So, here’s a weird thing. I noticed that before I made the post. So I deleted the image, changed the file name, and uploaded again. But I see now that the name didn’t actually change? I just tried to edit the post and do the same thing again, and it still didn’t successfully change. @codinghorror, thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/18 "2019-01-22T20:46:42Z")
Images are fingerprinted (hashed) on upload so you would need to modify the image in some way to make it different. Crop it slightly or change even a single pixel. ---
**Author:** ![photogeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/photogeek/32/41072_2.png) [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/19 "2019-01-22T21:53:08Z")
In any case, since the photo gives it away, I’ll finish the story. It is a Duracraft ProYo. From the slightly outdated [Museum of Yo-Yo History page about Playmaxx](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=profiles&subaction=company&company=proyo): > The ProYo was developed and patented in (1974). Playmaxx was started in 1976 by Donald F. Duncan, Jr. The original name was “Duncraft”. This name existed for about 6 months and was changed to “Duracraft” at the request of the “Duncan YoYo Co.” as they felt it was too close to their name/trademark. In 1988, Duracraft was changed to Playmaxx as it remains today. The original ProYo was produced until October 1996 when it was replaced by the ProYo II. The ProYo is considered, by aficionados, to be the father of most of the modern yo-yos. It is the most copied high tech yo-yo on the market today. The main features of this yoyo were the central spool that set the parallelism of the two side members and the undercuts on the side members that allowed the use of advertising side caps. This was also an early example of the use of rim weighted design in a plastic yoyo. > > Another significant feature was the shape. This “modern” shape is what has made it the father of the modern yo-yo. > > The original Duncraft ProYo as produced in 1976. This was produced unchanged except for the name until 1996. > > All three of the acknowledged world records for yo-yos with fixed axles as listed by the American Yo-Yo Association (AYYA) are held by the Original ProYo by Playmaxx. > > Longest spinner - to extinction : 51 seconds - Original ProYo > Fastest spinner : 11,400 RPM - Original ProYo > Around the Worlds : 26 - Original ProYo It is a super fun fixed axle throw. The rim weighting and super skinny axle make it both smooth and long spinning. However, it’s major weakness was that the the axle design was extremely fragile. Over tightening or a hard smack on the ground could crack and ruin it. The original ProYo was also available in a non take-apart version with a brass axle and in fact the brass axle was included with the take-apart version, though I don’t know anyone who ever used it. I bought this one in the early 90’s from National Grand Master and 1992 World Yo Yo Champ Dale Oliver when he was still a demonstrator for Duracraft and lived in Seattle (shortly thereafter he would go on to found his own yoyo company, Spintastics). I had called up Duracraft and ended up talking to Donald Duncan Jr on the phone trying to find out where to buy one and he directed me to Dale. Dale taught me Braintwister that same day which blew my mind as I’d never known such tricks existed. ---
**Author:** ![photogeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/photogeek/32/41072_2.png) [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800/20 "2019-01-22T21:56:08Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Images are fingerprinted (hashed) on upload so you would need to modify the image in some way to make it different. Crop it slightly or change even a single pixel. I figured it would be something like that. However, I’d argue that changing a filename would be enough of a “change”. I have a hard time thinking of a use case where a name change wouldn’t be a situation where a new version was wanted. On the other hand, whatever. Not a big deal in my book. Just kind of funny that I went through the effort to make it guessing game and left the answer sitting right there for anyone who hovered over the image. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-many-people-know-what-this-yoyo-is-original-duracraft-proyo/297800.md?page=2)