# How I mod my Deep State (and other yo’s) **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [May 15, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524 "2023-05-15T17:05:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/241 "2024-03-24T02:07:55Z")
I am so glad that worked!! It is super frustrating when they get that way. You can never fully trust them. Enjoy your Origen. 😃:+1: ---
**Author:** ![biggestcrybaby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/biggestcrybaby/32/271904_2.png) [@biggestcrybaby](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/biggestcrybaby)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/242 "2024-03-24T02:18:25Z")
Thank you so much! Awesome to hear that you like it. I picked up yo-yos to do something while I waited for paint to dry and it’s blossomed into me having to put my yo-yos in another room or else I keep getting distracted 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/243 "2024-05-28T17:31:07Z")
![IMG_1887](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/3/7/a375558deec3c287554c7d4aa3093f1450415ae6.jpeg) So I’ve had a number of interactions with my man Steve here. All of them have been without a doubt, 110 % positive! I actually asked him if I could post a rep thread him in regards to trades/sales, he said it wasn’t necessary. However this is in regards to his mods so I get to do it anyways! Hooray. Sometime ago me and him made a trade that resulted in him getting the green Alleycat pictured above. I didn’t want to sell it, but he made me an offer I couldn’t refuse (please do your best Marlon Brando impressions while reading that). Anywho, the spin gods dictated that it should be returned to me. He actually gave me the opportunity to purchase it back before listing it as he knew I was loathe to part with it. Regardless of anything else, that’s a stand up move right there. I was lucky enough that he modded it before doing so. He went through a process of lubing it up in such a way, and with products that I hadn’t ever thought of for my throws. Let me tell you, Now it won’t leave my collection again. Being as I don’t get involved in tournament styles, if I had to I’d say 1a all the way. I’m primarily concerned with response. The snappier and tighter the better. I’ve actually given some thought to sending him some more of my throws just cause when I got it back it threw amazing. So yeah, while I may not have dived into the technical aspect of what he did such as what products and steps he took to mod it, I know I got a throw that threw better than before and that’s what counts (I could tell ya what the secrets are, but then we’d have to kill ya). In summery, if you gave this man a throw to mod, rest easy. He’ll make it better, and if he’s giving advice on how to mod a one. I suggest following it. Plus, all his amps go to 11. -Willy ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/244 "2024-05-28T18:07:46Z")
12 brother…all my knobs go to 12…🤣🤣 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/1/4/31464f3d367e2682eb2fc5bdcb0550b471cf41f7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![pyrotechnic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pyrotechnic/32/689058_2.png) [@pyrotechnic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyrotechnic)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/245 "2024-05-28T19:27:45Z")
So not sure if this is helpful but after skimming through this thread a couple things to share. Cutting down a bearing post is like a mins work on the lathe. But more importantly size A bearing shields work as shims for size C bearing yoyos what I use in old yoyojams and the butterfly XT to get max gap for unresponsive. Have to stack up like 3-4 per half but should work for you thin shim needs. ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/246 "2024-05-28T19:31:34Z")
Oh if I had a lathe…I would have finished my wormhole device years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/247 "2024-05-28T21:18:25Z")
There’s no top secret recipe my friend. I use black moly grease. I like it because I’ve found that a few dabs and a drop of oil to spread it around and it spins nearly as well as a dry bearing but can respond close to a bearing that’s packed with grease. I always go through several bearings until I find the one I like. When I use grease I tend to look for a bearing that has more play in it. That gives that grease room to wiggle into and the grease ultimately smooths out the excess play. It’s all just about having way too much time on your hands to play with toys. 🤣🤣 ---
**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/248 "2024-05-28T21:18:59Z")
How good would something like this be for modding/tinkering? > **[VEVOR Mini Lathe Machine, 2.76 in x 6.3 in, 24VDC 96W Mini Wood Lathe Tools...](https://www.amazon.com/VEVOR-Machine-Milling-Accessories-Woodworking/dp/B0C9J2Z22R)** > > VEVOR Mini Lathe Machine, 2.76 in x 6.3 in, 24VDC 96W Mini Wood Lathe Tools Milling Machine Accessories, 7 Speeds 4220/5300/5650/6350/6660/7050/8450 RPM, for DIY Woodworking Wood Drill Rotary Tool - Amazon.com ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/249 "2024-05-28T21:22:31Z")
I know nothing about lathes. I’ve never used one. There are several things that would sure be easier. I like banging on things with rocks and hammers though. ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/250 "2024-05-28T21:47:19Z")
i bought something that was nearly identical and returned it, had terrible time getting anything to stay centered/locked with it. ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/251 "2024-05-28T21:58:26Z")
That’s cheap enough for me to almost risk it ---
**Author:** ![pyrotechnic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pyrotechnic/32/689058_2.png) [@pyrotechnic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyrotechnic)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/252 "2024-05-28T22:43:23Z")
Looks like a mini wood lathe would be good for plastic maybe but without a chuck big enough to hold a yoyo limits what you can do with it ---
**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/253 "2024-05-28T23:38:42Z")
I received Mr. Steve’s Responsive Pay it Forward. Got to play with several of his “Modded” yoyos. He does have a nack for “Tuning” the response of his yoyo. I never knew you could use Dry bearings and still get a good response until throwing his yoyos. I have even modified some of my yoyos based of his work. Fast forward a few months, I had the opportunity to Buy one of his yoyos. It is a RCS Pop Art. Now I never played with one before the mods, but Playing with it after the Mods has been amazing. > [@How I mod my Deep State (and other yo’s)](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/76): > > So here’s my last one. The Pop Art. I’ll start off by saying. I am a big fan of that Tiger Shark-like shape. It’s so comfy in my hand. I love my Butterfly AL and its shape has a ton to do with it. I had such high hopes for the actual Tiger Shark from Spintastics as a beater…I won’t even go into that adventure. Anyways, love the shape and had to have a Pop Art. This thing is designed for a sport I can’t play. It’s designed to stall, and do all those amazing 5a tricks that demand something differe… > [@How I mod my Deep State (and other yo’s)](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/78): > > Some pics of the Pop Art This yoyo has been my pocket yoyo for the last couple of weeks. Its plays so nice. Not sure why he got rid of it. But I wont tell him that. Have Fun. ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/254 "2024-05-28T23:48:20Z")
> [@Pun1sh3R](#): > > Not sure why he got rid of it. I think that deep down inside…I knew you belonged together. 😃🤣 ---
**Author:** ![pyrotechnic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pyrotechnic/32/689058_2.png) [@pyrotechnic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyrotechnic)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/255 "2024-05-29T01:41:22Z")
> **[Amazon.com: VEVOR Mini Metal Lathe, 7"x14", Benchtop Metal Lathe, 550W Variable...](https://www.amazon.com/VEVOR-Mini-Metal-Lathe-x14/dp/B0BKSXTRY3)** > > SpecificationsPower of Motor: 550W DC Single PhaseTailstock Taper: MT#2Spindle Speed: 50-2250 ± 10% RPMSpindle Accuracy: 0.01 mmGear Material: MetalVoltage: 110V / 60HzSpindle Hole: 0.8“ / φ 21 mmSwing Over Bed: 7.09" / 180 mmCenter Distance:13.78" /... More so need something like this ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/256 "2024-05-29T02:24:38Z")
The fact that this is both more in line with what I expected and way more than my 3d printer is why I don’t have a lathe lol ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/257 "2024-05-29T12:25:05Z")
@Wildo @Pun1sh3R Thanks guys for sharing your thoughts on those. I am so glad you like them. It makes me so happy to know they’re home now. To know they’re in the hands of someone who really appreciates them means the world to me. ---
**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/258 "2024-05-29T13:26:34Z")
I have a dremel…that’s about it. ---
**Author:** ![pyrotechnic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pyrotechnic/32/689058_2.png) [@pyrotechnic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyrotechnic)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/259 "2024-05-29T15:01:49Z")
I started modding on yoyojams with a dremel and a sharpened screw driver ---
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524/260 "2024-05-29T15:32:37Z")
Steve, Hey man, I have a fresh deepstate. Do you think if I sent it to you, you could mod it for me? I actually have that and an older Illy Mary I’d like you to look at. It’s getting a bit sluggish on the return and I’m not sure what’s wrong. It used to be so snappy and responsive, it seems a bit slow as of late and I can’t figure it out. If it’s a yes, I got a killer surprise for ya I think you’ll really appreciate :wink: -Willy [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524.md?page=14)