# how fast is the genesis? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [September 2, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694 "2010-09-02T17:14:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/1 "2010-09-02T17:14:32Z")
I am looking for a yoyo that is fast and can handle horizontals and can take a beating. That brings out the genesis and the yuuksta. Which one of these do you think would be faster/more stable? ---
**Author:** ![jbyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/77aa72/32.png) [@jbyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jbyoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/2 "2010-09-02T17:48:40Z")
Well I have the genesis and I personally feel its a little sluggish compared to my Dingo. ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/3 "2010-09-02T17:49:56Z")
> [@jbyoyo](#): > > Well I have the genesis and I personally feel its a little sluggish compared to my Dingo. then again, the dingo is a mini yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/4 "2010-09-02T21:19:49Z")
I have both the genesis and yuuksta the yuuksta is much faster but the genesis is a lottt better for horizantels Finally the genesis is slow but really stable while yuuksta is a lot faster but a little is less stable and smaller ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/5 "2010-09-02T21:22:10Z")
> [@laxdude99](#): > > I have both the genesis and yuuksta the yuuksta is much faster but the genesis is a lottt better for horizantels > > Finally the genesis is slow but really stable while yuuksta is a lot faster but a little is less stable and smaller how much better is the genesis for horizontals exactly? ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/6 "2010-09-02T21:29:50Z")
More stable and stays side ways I’d say a lot better ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/7 "2010-09-02T22:03:45Z")
GENESIS IS SLOW. Think of a rock. That’s why I’ve traded mine. ---
**Author:** ![crocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d9b06d/32.png) [@crocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/crocks)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/8 "2010-09-02T22:10:09Z")
dreadnought but its big and expensive. but i dont know if its slow maybe yes. but got good at horizontals. ---
**Author:** ![james](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/james/32/149_2.png) [@james](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/james)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/9 "2010-09-02T22:16:58Z")
The Genesis is pretty dang fast, but heavy. It isn’t real floaty, but the shape gives it a nice speed. I haven’t played the Yukksta, but it is lighter, and smaller. So I would imagine it would be even faster, and floatier. And scince it has a H shape, I would imagine it would be great for horisontal tricks just like the Genesis. Hope that helped some. -James Reed ---
**Author:** ![DYonch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@DYonch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DYonch)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/10 "2010-09-03T00:39:30Z")
They seem about the same speed to me, but the Genesis will definitely be easier for 90 degree tricks. ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/11 "2010-09-03T02:52:20Z")
I have also been thinking of the boss, can it contend horizontally with the genesis? ---
**Author:** ![x52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/3bc359/32.png) [@x52](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/x52)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/12 "2010-09-03T03:09:23Z")
Just stay with the Genesis. If your looking to do horizontals, the Genesis, as it’s more floaty than the Yuuksta, but the Yuuksta is smaller and plays faster by slightly. And the Genesis also plays really fast. Look at Yuuki Spencer use it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jafr5HO2fCc](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jafr5HO2fCc) same for Paul Han and ect. It’s really fast in the right hands. But matching to what you said, the Yuuksta. I have both yoyos, and I find them both as stable as each other. So I would get a Yuuksta if you prefer a Center-Trac bearing, or a Genesis if you like more of a full sized yoyo with a standard SPEC YYF Bearing that comes stock with it. :wink: I really hopes this helps you make a good decision. ---
**Author:** ![Iron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/iron/32/127_2.png) [@Iron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Iron)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/13 "2010-09-03T19:05:27Z")
The Genesis plays pretty slow to me. If you want something like a lighter and faster Genesis, the Protostar is probably your best bet. I think it’s a great choice since you get the best of both worlds: fast play, and great horizontal manipulation! ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/14 "2010-09-03T19:11:48Z")
so, what exactly makes a yoyo good for horizontals? ---
**Author:** ![AFrozenYetiBaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@AFrozenYetiBaby](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AFrozenYetiBaby)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/15 "2010-09-03T19:28:27Z")
> [@mista8eight8](#): > > so, what exactly makes a yoyo good for horizontals? Proper weight distribution ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/16 "2010-09-03T19:37:56Z")
> [@AFrozenYetiBaby](#): > > > [@mista8eight8](#): > > > > so, what exactly makes a yoyo good for horizontals? > > Proper weight distribution so…all weight possible to the rims? ---
**Author:** ![Iron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/iron/32/127_2.png) [@Iron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Iron)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-fast-is-the-genesis/18694/17 "2010-09-04T03:00:20Z")
> [@mista8eight8](#): > > > [@AFrozenYetiBaby](#): > > > > > [@mista8eight8](#): > > > > > > so, what exactly makes a yoyo good for horizontals? > > > > Proper weight distribution > > so…all weight possible to the rims? No, not exactly. Weight distribution and wall size are the most important factors. You want enough rim weight to be able to stay horizontal when you need it to, but not too much so that you can’t manipulate the tilt of the yo-yo easily. A low wall is preferred, because they aren’t as stable, so the yoyo therefore can be controlled much easier.