# How about ILYY? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [October 18, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-about-ilyy/70202 "2014-10-18T16:14:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.wIerdHObBies31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mr.wierdhobbies31/32/1421_2.png) [@Mr.wIerdHObBies31](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mr.wIerdHObBies31)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-about-ilyy/70202/1 "2014-10-18T16:14:35Z")
They haven’t been real active lately but I really like the looks of some of their earlier designs. They’re just such older designs than what I’m used to. (The oldest design I have is the new y factor; second oldest would be the puffin or comeback Avalanche) Are these older shapes now obsolete or can they keep up with today’s multi string wrap tricks, horizontals, and so forth? The yoyos I’m looking at are the E1NS 09, Greyhound, valve, Lynx, falcon, or even the new Nile. The trvth seems way too thin but could still be an option. Thanks guys. Ps, Why does there seem to be no love for this small German company? No one ever says a peep about 'em. ---
**Author:** ![slowyojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@slowyojoe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/slowyojoe)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-about-ilyy/70202/2 "2014-10-18T16:51:54Z")
There are definitely some who have ILYY vibes: > **[A little ILYY](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,51189.0.html)** > > EDIT Dec 6, 2013: Apparently, my ILYY collection wasn’t as complete as I thought. Hi again folks, I’ve collected a few new ILYY throws including 2 more Niles, another Enigma and the engraved Void (which plays so smooth, btw). Here’s the newly... ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-about-ilyy/70202/3 "2014-10-18T17:47:35Z")
The nile is actually a really modern shape and would be fine at all the things you listed. The rest are not going to be very good at horizontal due to the high walls. The no love comes from the fact that they don’t have standard pad sizes like most other yoyos on the market. They also take metric size bearing instead of C size bearings so you can’t just swap them out easily. ---
**Author:** ![jasonwongzero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jasonwongzero/32/725_2.png) [@jasonwongzero](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jasonwongzero)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-about-ilyy/70202/4 "2014-10-18T23:04:06Z")
I love the Lynx. It feels a lot like a Peak, imo. Trvth is a really fun, unique throw. I enjoy practicing on it. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-about-ilyy/70202/5 "2014-10-19T02:42:52Z")
> [@jasonwongzero](#): > > I love the Lynx. It feels a lot like a Peak, imo. > > Trvth is a really fun, unique throw. I love practicing on it. Everyone says that, makes me tempted to get one. The only ILYY that I own is the Phase, it plays very light and fast but the step gets in the way sometimes (not nearly as much as HSYY’s review would suggest). I do have my eye on the Falcon 2011, Eins, and Greyhound though. ---
**Author:** ![Coffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/coffelt/32/1085_2.png) [@Coffelt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coffelt)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-about-ilyy/70202/6 "2014-10-19T03:03:14Z")
Have owned a few. The older organics shapes are great and relaxed. The Nile is right up there competition wise (I compete with an Avalanche). My favorite aspect of ILYY is the blast right up there with my GeneralYo. ---
**Author:** ![jasonwongzero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jasonwongzero/32/725_2.png) [@jasonwongzero](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jasonwongzero)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-about-ilyy/70202/7 "2014-10-19T03:49:43Z")
Totally agree on the blast! Awesome feel and looks really nice. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.wIerdHObBies31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mr.wierdhobbies31/32/1421_2.png) [@Mr.wIerdHObBies31](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mr.wIerdHObBies31)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-about-ilyy/70202/8 "2014-10-19T04:41:06Z")
I do a lot of fast stuff. Or at least I try. I love the curves of the older ones. Some 5a. Any of the older designs ok for that?