# Horizontal Palm Grind Help? **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [August 13, 2012, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizontal-palm-grind-help/41413 "2012-08-13T13:32:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BenM36](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benm36/32/646268_2.png) [@BenM36](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BenM36)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizontal-palm-grind-help/41413/1 "2012-08-13T13:32:43Z")
Whenever I pop the yoyo onto my hand, it bounces or spins right off. I’m using a G5. Any tips would be appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![aznnboyaZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznnboyaz/32/651830_2.png) [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizontal-palm-grind-help/41413/2 "2012-08-13T15:33:57Z")
Cup your hand more And find a yoyo with a less bulky rim to practice with! ---
**Author:** ![BenM36](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benm36/32/646268_2.png) [@BenM36](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BenM36)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizontal-palm-grind-help/41413/3 "2012-08-13T15:45:30Z")
> [@aznnboyaZ](#): > > Cup your hand more > And find a yoyo with a less bulky rim to practice with! Ok and my g5 is my only real grinder at the moment, other that my POPstar. And to eliminate possible confusion, I’m talking about the grind Harold Owens does. ---
**Author:** ![aznnboyaZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznnboyaz/32/651830_2.png) [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizontal-palm-grind-help/41413/4 "2012-08-13T17:21:46Z")
I know! ---
**Author:** ![devinfoulkrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/devinfoulkrod/32/1039_2.png) [@devinfoulkrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/devinfoulkrod)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizontal-palm-grind-help/41413/5 "2012-08-16T12:28:18Z")
Harold owens stopping grind bind is what you are looking for. I know this sounds silly but wear a glove on your non throw hand to increase spin time (i know he doesn’t use a glove) throw a horizontal throw and land it on you palm, it works best if you make your hand shaped like an upright “U” then wrap the string around the yoyo counter clock wise and bind ---
**Author:** ![PlasticWhip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/plasticwhip/32/896_2.png) [@PlasticWhip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PlasticWhip)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizontal-palm-grind-help/41413/6 "2012-08-17T13:55:50Z")
You need a better grinder to get this trick down good. May I suggest anything with a media blast. The finish on yoyofactorys just isn’t good enough for these kind of tricks. ---
**Author:** ![BenM36](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benm36/32/646268_2.png) [@BenM36](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BenM36)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizontal-palm-grind-help/41413/7 "2012-08-17T21:04:12Z")
> [@WildCat23](#): > > You need a better grinder to get this trick down good. May I suggest anything with a media blast. The finish on yoyofactorys just isn’t good enough for these kind of tricks. What about a wooly marmot? ---
**Author:** ![MrSquirrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrsquirrel/32/1008_2.png) [@MrSquirrel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrSquirrel)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizontal-palm-grind-help/41413/8 "2012-08-18T03:16:20Z")
> [@WildCat23](#): > > You need a better grinder to get this trick down good. May I suggest anything with a media blast. The finish on yoyofactorys just isn’t good enough for these kind of tricks. Harold Owens used a YYF Catalyst for his performance, so obviously the YYF finish is good enough. ---
**Author:** ![PlasticWhip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/plasticwhip/32/896_2.png) [@PlasticWhip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PlasticWhip)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizontal-palm-grind-help/41413/9 "2012-08-18T15:36:06Z")
> [@BenM36](#): > > > [@WildCat23](#): > > > > You need a better grinder to get this trick down good. May I suggest anything with a media blast. The finish on yoyofactorys just isn’t good enough for these kind of tricks. > > What about a wooly marmot? That will work. > [@MrSquirrel](#): > > > [@WildCat23](#): > > > > You need a better grinder to get this trick down good. May I suggest anything with a media blast. The finish on yoyofactorys just isn’t good enough for these kind of tricks. > > Harold Owens used a YYF Catalyst for his performance, so obviously the YYF finish is good enough. Agreed, but when your learning to do it, its easiest with a good grinder.