# Horizon and shutter or protostar and northstar **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [July 16, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820 "2014-07-16T21:28:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jjs77as6533](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjs77as6533](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjs77as6533)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820/1 "2014-07-16T21:28:12Z")
I’m leaning towards the protostar and northstar; can they keep up with these newer designs? Although I may not be the best at it, I like to experiment with horizontal play. Can the plastics that I’ve selected handle horizontal as well as the metals? ---
**Author:** ![Darkscism](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/darkscism/32/1443_2.png) [@Darkscism](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Darkscism)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820/2 "2014-07-16T23:35:02Z")
I feel the shutter alone is better than most yo-yos under $100. I’d say the shutter plays better than both the north star and protostar. If i was you I’d just get the shutter. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820/3 "2014-07-16T23:39:26Z")
Why not one of each so you have both plastic and metal ---
**Author:** ![Nikolai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8491ac/32.png) [@Nikolai](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nikolai)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820/4 "2014-07-17T15:37:42Z")
Yyr diffusion ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820/5 "2014-07-17T22:53:25Z")
> [@Nikolai](#): > > Yyr diffusion Lol If you were just looking and platics, then yes, the diffusion would probably be a better voice than both the superstar and North Star. But since we have 2 other great yoyos, I don’t think suggeting the diffusion would be very relevant. Again, all preferences. The shutter was my first metal, and competition yoyo. I loved it ever since the order throw and it will remain as one of my everyday throws. But the horizon , I haven’t played. It looks sick for horizontal and finger spins, but I kinda hate oversized yoyos(except the Equilateral) and is pretty heavy. So really it’s all preference. To answer your questions about the playability o the plastics compared to the metals, its mostly skill of your horizontal, but it will definitely be easier on a horizon/shutter, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![jjs77as6533](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjs77as6533](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjs77as6533)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820/6 "2014-07-18T01:34:33Z")
With the horizon now being out of stock, how is the czm8 for horizontal and finger spins? ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820/7 "2014-07-18T16:44:01Z")
It would be pretty good, but if you are gonna choose another yoyo, i would HIGHLY reccomend the PulseFire, signature throw of Tyler Hsieh(aznyuan) Plays Fast, Stable, Light, and can finger spin really well ---
**Author:** ![hobbyman101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@hobbyman101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbyman101)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820/8 "2014-07-18T17:07:30Z")
> [@Raigo](#): > > It would be pretty good, but if you are gonna choose another yoyo, i would HIGHLY > reccomend the PulseFire, signature throw of Tyler Hsieh(aznyuan) > Plays Fast, Stable, Light, and can finger spin really well Where would one fine a PulseFire? ---
**Author:** ![GoCrazyForYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gocrazyforyoyo/32/7941_2.png) [@GoCrazyForYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GoCrazyForYoyo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820/9 "2014-07-18T17:11:24Z")
Maybe you should get a shutter and a protostar. ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/horizon-and-shutter-or-protostar-and-northstar/67820/10 "2014-07-18T18:26:59Z")
> [@hobbyman101](#): > > Where would one fine a PulseFire? Ill send you the link for it via message, as im nto sure if im allowed to directly put the link in the forums. > [@GoCrazyForYoyo](#): > > Maybe you should get a shutter and a protostar. IMO, i would say you should rather get a Diffusion(v.2). About same cost, but the diffusion probably outplay the protostar in every way