# Hitman Vs X-Convict Vs Darkmagic **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [March 20, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551 "2010-03-20T03:40:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/97f17d/32.png) [@pyros](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyros)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/1 "2010-03-20T03:40:06Z")
i am rather new to yoyoing and want a good yoyo i can use for a long time. i am a beginner and can somewhat bind and i want to know what would be good to get. ive read reviews on the X-Convict, Dark Magic, and Hitman and dont know which is better. i am confused :-\ ??? ---
**Author:** ![yoyofool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofool/32/398_2.png) [@yoyofool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofool)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/2 "2010-03-20T04:00:43Z")
> [@pyros](#): > > i am rather new to yoyoing and want a good yoyo i can use for a long time. i am a beginner and can somewhat bind and i want to know what would be good to get. ive read reviews on the X-Convict, Dark Magic, and Hitman and dont know which is better. i am confused :-\ ??? The dark magic is a pretty solid yoyo and as you can see Andre uses it in all his tut’s other than responsive play so yah you can get a long time of play with one. ---
**Author:** ![pyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/97f17d/32.png) [@pyros](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyros)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/3 "2010-03-20T04:14:25Z")
thnx :), but i’d like to also know whats good about the hitman and the X-Convict (The reviews i read said they were good too) ---
**Author:** ![yoyojamben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamben/32/289780_2.png) [@yoyojamben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojamben)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/4 "2010-03-20T13:33:53Z")
X-convict - great for grinds, nice stalls & snap starts Hitman - Excellent all around, comfy shape Dark Magic - Excellent all around, beasty at T-grinds All are similar in aspects of play, and will accomplish tricks. ---
**Author:** ![yoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/7bcc69/32.png) [@yoman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/5 "2010-03-20T14:19:00Z")
DarkMagic. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_rocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Johnny\_rocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Johnny_rocks)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/6 "2010-03-20T14:40:11Z")
some people have said before, the DM is a yoyo that is liked by a lot of people, where as the x-convict is more of a personal yoyo (meaning some like it, some don’t. But the people who do like the x-con usually like it more that the DM.) I think if your new to yoyoing, you probably don’t have very exotic preferences, so i don’t really think you want to look into the x-con until you figure out what your preferences are. It’s really between the DM and HM. Hitman. is good for tricks like, stalls, complicated string tricks,(ladder escape, white Buddha, black hops) it’s grinds are amazing! Thumb grinds need some work, it has a really long spin time, all and all, a great yoyo. Dark Magic. Is good for tricks like, amazing thumb grinds!, complicated string tricks, not all that great for stalls, normal grinds are slightly above average, near perfect balence, all and all, a great yoyo. hope it helps! :wink: Johnny ---
**Author:** ![x52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/3bc359/32.png) [@x52](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/x52)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/7 "2010-03-20T14:41:20Z")
I would get a Yoyofactory yoyo, but if your going to buy from Yoyojam I would get a X-Convict. ---
**Author:** ![yoyot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3d9bf3/32.png) [@yoyot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyot)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/8 "2010-03-20T16:15:39Z")
I have the DM and hitman. They both play very smoothly. They both do all my tricks. They both grind fairly the same, except for thumb grinds, the DM wins there. The hitman is smaller and less wide. They both feel good in the hand. What makes me like the hitman more is its response. I greatly prefer the double oring response. Hybrid response gives great binds but it just is constantly rubbing and I don’t like it like the hitman. That does not mean that I don’t like the DM though. The hitman is also lighter and faster. I would go with the hitman. I have not tried the xcon so I will not comment on it. ---
**Author:** ![pyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/97f17d/32.png) [@pyros](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyros)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/9 "2010-03-20T22:45:51Z")
thnx everyone :D! i am probably getting a Hitman because of what you all said of it and now realize how crazy it is not being able to just try a yoyo (there are no yoyo shops close to where i live) and having to research it on the net. 8) ---
**Author:** ![gee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@gee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gee)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/10 "2010-03-21T04:29:46Z")
The hitman is one of my favorite yoyos. It’s shape is very comfortable and it plays great! Also like the cap art a lot haha ---
**Author:** ![buddhakeith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/67e7ee/32.png) [@buddhakeith](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buddhakeith)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-vs-x-convict-vs-darkmagic/12551/11 "2010-03-22T21:27:17Z")
i really like the hitman and x-con, but if I was going to buy a yyj plastic, I would probably go for a new breed. They are big but not bulky, and easy to land on the string (a good 3 mm wider than any of the others), grind like a beast (thumb grinds are tough because of the really small lip, however). It is probably my favorite plastic, and recently has been getting more playtime than my wasabi. I also like the silicone pad response system better than the o-ring. The one downside for a beginer is it doesnt have an adjustable gap, while the other 3 do