# Hitman or Dark Magic **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 26, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636 "2009-06-26T07:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nicco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nicco](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nicco)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/1 "2009-06-26T07:01:55Z")
Hi all. Im currently using a YYJ Legacy and love it, is smooth, well weighted and a great size. I am looking at upgrading to a metal rimmed YYJ and can’t make a decision. I figure the Dark Magic is a perfect upgrade from the Legacy but I’m not to sure about the Hybrid response. On the other hand i like the dual ring response on the Hitman as well as the width, but am not to sure about the diameter. Any Sugestions. ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/2 "2009-06-26T07:09:12Z")
Based on what you said, I think you should go with the Hitman. It seems that you would like it more, so I assume you should get it. ---
**Author:** ![Nicco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nicco](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nicco)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/3 "2009-06-26T07:11:01Z")
So you don’t think i’d have an issue with the diameter, i hear its a fair bit smaller than the Legacy? ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/4 "2009-06-26T07:29:36Z")
Nah, its good to try new things. I’m sure you would adjust 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nicco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nicco](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nicco)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/5 "2009-06-26T07:30:38Z")
Thanks Samad. ---
**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/6 "2009-06-26T10:44:46Z")
Since you do have a Legacy, from Andre, there the Dark Magic. Dark Magic is a bit heavy, sleeps really long, is a little big, but worth it, and has perfect looks. It does come in Hybrid, but it can be un-responsive/responsive. All Andre needed was a KonKave bearing to make it un-responsive. Or shims, or change the o-ring to a silicone o-ring. The Hitman does come in two responses. Hybrid, and double o-ring. Double o-ring is a little less responsive, and is a perfect response. You can also change it to silicone. The Hybrid, is responsive, even when broken in. I have a Hybrid Hitman, and it is responsive. The feel of the Hitman is more of a grinding shape, wider, rounder. The shape of the Dark Magic is more of a thumb grind because of the narrow rims at the end. That, too, is a grinding shape. You will love both, so yes, like Samad said, go with the Hitman. ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/7 "2009-06-26T15:16:27Z")
> [@Spencer\_L](#): > > Since you do have a Legacy, from Andre, there the Dark Magic. Dark Magic is a bit heavy, sleeps really long, is a little big, but worth it, and has perfect looks. It does come in Hybrid, but it can be un-responsive/responsive. All Andre needed was a KonKave bearing to make it un-responsive. Or shims, or change the o-ring to a silicone o-ring. The Hitman does come in two responses. Hybrid, and double o-ring. Double o-ring is a little less responsive, and is a perfect response. You can also change it to silicone. The Hybrid, is responsive, even when broken in. I have a Hybrid Hitman, and it is responsive. The feel of the Hitman is more of a grinding shape, wider, rounder. The shape of the Dark Magic is more of a thumb grind because of the narrow rims at the end. That, too, is a grinding shape. You will love both, so yes, like Samad said, go with the Hitman. What he said ;D ;D ;D ---
**Author:** ![mikey77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mikey77/32/48_2.png) [@mikey77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mikey77)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/8 "2009-06-26T18:39:09Z")
samad said to try new things, so try the hitman, butif u don’t like it, ur next yoyo u should try the DM. ---
**Author:** ![bonesraphs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bonesraphs/32/43_2.png) [@bonesraphs](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bonesraphs)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/9 "2009-06-26T19:00:53Z")
> [@mikey77](#): > > samad said to try new things, so try the hitman, butif u don’t like it, ur next yoyo u should try the DM. Please… Watch your Grammar! 😛 I would Go with the Hitman if you liked the Silicone,I would Silicone the Dual O- Ring ---
**Author:** ![druminpython](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/druminpython/32/57_2.png) [@druminpython](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/druminpython)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/10 "2009-06-26T19:20:35Z")
I think that the x convict would probably be better because jdmade it after the hitman ---
**Author:** ![Below\_Zer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/below_zer0/32/197_2.png) [@Below\_Zer0](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Below_Zer0)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hitman-or-dark-magic/3636/11 "2009-06-26T19:22:32Z")
Or buy an M1