# High Walled Yoyos **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 7, 2015, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073 "2015-06-07T11:24:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/21 "2015-06-08T18:17:36Z")
> [@yoyodoc](#): > > That statement has no merit whatsoever. It is not true. It is unsubstantiated. It does not hold water. It has zero potential in generating evidence of validity. It’s groundless. Illogical. Conjecture. An observation that cannot be supported to even a minute level of having any basis in fact. I think you got your point across… ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/22 "2015-06-08T18:28:11Z")
> [@nightshadow](#): > > I think you got your point across… Thanks for the input. I was unsure until you chimed in mommy… ---
**Author:** ![easytrapezey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/easytrapezey/32/1606_2.png) [@easytrapezey](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/easytrapezey)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/23 "2015-06-08T19:45:07Z")
Dang sig. I don’t see people mentioning it much. Underrated. I use it when I’m trying to learn a trick. I can feel the string pushing against the walls and I know I need to readjust posture/hand-placement. With the H rims. It makes me feel like a yoyoing machine. Forces me to play straight and more accurate. Not so much that I will fail if I dont… More like it’s constantly gently nudging me to better execution. I thought about putting it up on the BST - but every time I pick it up I time travel to the future about one hour… a future where I am a yoyo machine and no longer want to put it up on the BST. 8) ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/24 "2015-06-08T19:56:08Z")
> [@yoyodoc](#): > > Thanks for the input. I was unsure until you chimed in mommy… Whoa man. Sorry if I was rude. I was joking. ---
**Author:** ![Schnayke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Schnayke](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Schnayke)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/25 "2015-06-08T20:34:16Z")
Don’t mind mo he has thick skin. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Nemyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nemyo/32/14407_2.png) [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/26 "2015-06-08T21:14:03Z")
If the yo-yo plays well then I’ll use it, if it’s high-wall or not. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/27 "2015-06-08T22:50:53Z")
> [@nightshadow](#): > > Whoa man. Sorry if I was rude. I was joking. I didn’t think what you said was rude. I though it was funny. ---
**Author:** ![Marcius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/marcius/32/7929_2.png) [@Marcius](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marcius)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/28 "2015-06-09T12:02:14Z")
So… what are the benefits of a high walled design? Easier string rejections and easier for you to manually tilt the yo-yo? I’ve many high-walled throws from a long time ago (FHZs, Lyn Furies, Hitmen etc) and I think the trade-off isn’t worth it. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/29 "2015-06-09T12:19:11Z")
> [@Marcius](#): > > So… what are the benefits of a high walled design? Easier string rejections and easier for you to manually tilt the yo-yo? I’ve many high-walled throws from a long time ago (FHZs, Lyn Furies, Hitmen etc) and I think the trade-off isn’t worth it. I had the same question in my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Gambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gambit/32/1358_2.png) [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/30 "2015-06-09T12:34:38Z")
> [@Marcius](#): > > So… what are the benefits of a high walled design? Easier string rejections and easier for you to manually tilt the yo-yo? I’ve many high-walled throws from a long time ago (FHZs, Lyn Furies, Hitmen etc) and I think the trade-off isn’t worth it. There aren’t really any ‘benefits’ besides those which you’ve mentioned. Even though the higher walls may help rejections, it’s not like low walls make rejections impossible. After all, let’s not forget that the rejection king uses one of these: [https://www.yo-yo.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/JanosBarracuda-2.jpg](https://www.yo-yo.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/JanosBarracuda-2.jpg) Looks pretty low walled to me, but it never seems to hold Janos back. The fact that most modern yoyos have mid-low walls nowadays reflects the fact that from a performance standpoint, it’s widely accepted as the more agreeable option. Granted, there will be people that will point out how high walls force you to play more accurately and may help smoothen out your style, but that doesn’t seem to be enough of a selling point to keep high walled yoyos flying off shelves. :-X Still, it’s nice to have a couple of high-walled options out there in case you want something a little different. I’ve been meaning to pick up a Onedrop Dang for a while, it’s just that since a lot of Onedrop’s new offerings are lower priced, dropping $120 for a splashed one is currently enough to keep me at a “I’ll get one a bit later” state. When the CiTizen’s hit YYE I plan on dropping quite a bit of cash into Andre’s pockets, so I might finally pull the trigger then. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/31 "2015-06-09T17:10:30Z")
Highwalls help with regens. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoavenger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoavenger/32/884_2.png) [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/32 "2015-06-10T12:57:22Z")
> [@yoyodoc](#): > > That statement has no merit whatsoever. It is not true. It is unsubstantiated. It does not hold water. It has zero potential in generating evidence of validity. It’s groundless. Illogical. Conjecture. An observation that cannot be supported to even a minute level of having any basis in fact. > > YEARS ago, the Spindoctors were cranking out some Amazing tricks. Paul Escolar, Dave Capurro, Gabe Lozano, the Longoria Brothers and the list goes on… > > To this day, some of the Tricks are still considered Amazing and difficult to do. Paul Escolar could post up a personal trick ladder that many would have difficulty ‘climbing’. His tricks were Nuts at the time and still are. > > He and the rest of the Spindoctors used mainly Duncan Freehands and/or Super-yo Renegades. High wall yoyos. > I used to watch guys literally do freestyles with Raiders, lol. And I don’t just mean Saber Raiders, I mean Raiders. > > Seems many new players have this mental block from being Brainwashed on Yoyo Forums. ‘I can’t do tricks on high walled yoyos’. ‘The catch zone needs to be larger’. Etc. > > If you actually notice, the center of the gap is Always right in the middle of the Yoyo. Once a Player can consistently throw a trapeze with his eyes closed; his string/gap alignment is locked in. Old school players had enough focus and determination that they made what they had work. > > Players that need a V shaped Yoyo 45mm wide are either Sloppy or just plain lazy. > > I fully understand that for certain tricks/styles, V shapes with low walls can make things easier for some. > > The simple reality is that the groundwork for many trick developments had their roots in yoyos that were pretty much All High or higher walled yoyos. sick man, you’re a yoyo genius. Way to bash the n00bs d00d. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/33 "2015-06-10T13:10:52Z")
So, I have this Square Wheels Royale with Cheese… it has walls that are approaching “mid” (side note: Cascade has pretty low walls. Not “no” walls, but they’re low…). I don’t play it at all differently than any of my other yoyos, and I don’t “notice” the wall in the least. I don’t play horizontal, mind you. But the point being that with the exception of horizontal, you’re thinking too hard if you’re worried that it’s going to dramatically affect your ability to play it. ---
**Author:** ![Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pineapple_jumpsuit/32/1431_2.png) [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pineapple_Jumpsuit)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/34 "2015-06-10T21:33:13Z")
Horizontals are my favorite style to do, so I like low wall. ---
**Author:** ![DKiminator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DKiminator](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DKiminator)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/35 "2015-06-10T21:35:20Z")
> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#): > > Horizontals are my favorite style to do, so I like low wall. It’s not a nessecity. Jensen learned horizontals on an OG Wooly Marmot. ---
**Author:** ![gijoey959](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gijoey959/32/7958_2.png) [@gijoey959](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gijoey959)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/36 "2015-06-10T21:43:39Z")
This thread inspired me to go back and learn all my current tricks on my first yoyo (Speed Beetle) A lot more difficult than I thought, but fun! ---
**Author:** ![lukas412](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@lukas412](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lukas412)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/37 "2015-06-11T00:17:44Z")
So the last high walled yoyo I had was a Super Spinfaktor. What’s the must have nowadays? DM2? ---
**Author:** ![Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pineapple_jumpsuit/32/1431_2.png) [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pineapple_Jumpsuit)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073/38 "2015-06-11T00:47:40Z")
> [@DKiminator](#): > > It’s not a nessecity. Jensen learned horizontals on an OG Wooly Marmot. I’m not Jensen though. 😛 [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/high-walled-yoyos/75073.md?page=1)