# Hendy's yoyo design thread (UPDATE: New design on page 6)

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [October 15, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195 "2013-10-15T20:11:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/21 "2013-10-16T00:55:41Z")

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whoops, did it again

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### Author: ![Hendy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/22 "2013-10-16T01:07:36Z")

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> [@stuarttw](#):
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> Yup, about 7 grams shy. Add it all to the rims

Done 🙂  
Pics up tomorrow.

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### Author: ![PlasticWhip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/plasticwhip/32/896_2.png) [@PlasticWhip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PlasticWhip)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/23 "2013-10-16T01:16:21Z")

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Try switching from isometric to perspective. It’s a huge favor to the eyes.

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### Author: ![Hendy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/24 "2013-10-16T01:19:52Z")

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> [@WildCat23](#):
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> Try switching from isometric to perspective. It’s a huge favor to the eyes.

Ok no problem. Sorry if my pics have been hard to read or something.

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### Author: ![The\_Machinist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a4c791/32.png) [@The\_Machinist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/The_Machinist)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/25 "2013-10-16T01:22:35Z")

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Shielded bearings(10ball) weigh 2.2 grams  
Response pads(flow groove) weigh .22 grams each or .44 grams per set  
Axle(m4x.7 thread) weighs ~.065 grams per 1mm of length. So a 16mm long axle weighs 1.04 grams.

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### Author: ![Hendy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/26 "2013-10-16T01:24:11Z")

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> [@The\_Machinist](#):
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> Shielded bearings(10ball) weigh 2.2 grams  
> Response pads(flow groove) weigh .22 grams each or .44 grams per set  
> Axle(m4x.7 thread) weighs ~.065 grams per 1mm of length. So a 16mm long axle weighs 1.04 grams.

Thanks!

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### Author: ![Hendy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/27 "2013-10-16T22:54:55Z")

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Here are pictures of the updated design (for now I’ll be calling it “the Wanderer”):

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/5/b/b5b375d8f462ab6c9ee21e1b397b0c3a18077860.bmp)

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### Author: ![Hendy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/28 "2013-10-16T22:55:41Z")

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And a new design (for now I’ll be calling in “the Pathfinder”):

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### Author: ![Jdrabik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jdrabik/32/1110_2.png) [@Jdrabik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jdrabik)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/29 "2013-10-17T00:29:48Z")

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Both look pretty good, especially the Pathfinder! I just would like to see the rims on the Wanderer be a little less bulbous.

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### Author: ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/30 "2013-10-17T00:56:22Z")

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Pathfinder looks like it would be an awesome delrin. May I ask what software you use?

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### Author: ![Hendy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/31 "2013-10-17T01:17:06Z")

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> [@Jdrabik](#):
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> Both look pretty good, especially the Pathfinder! I just would like to see the rims on the Wanderer be a little less bulbous.

They actually aren’t that bulbous at all haha. That’s the perspective mode playing tricks. I can upload a pic in orthographic mode to give you a better idea of the actual shape.

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### Author: ![aznnboyaZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznnboyaz/32/651830_2.png) [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/32 "2013-10-17T01:17:53Z")

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Those look sexy!  
You better let me test em :wink:

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### Author: ![Hendy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/33 "2013-10-17T01:18:59Z")

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> [@MYNAMEISZen](#):
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> Pathfinder looks like it would be an awesome delrin. May I ask what software you use?

Thanks! I always love me some Delrin.

I used Autodesk Inventor.

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### Author: ![Hendy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/34 "2013-10-17T01:20:52Z")

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> [@aznnboyaZ](#):
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> Those look sexy!  
> You better let me test em :wink:

Maybe if I save the money to have them prototyped :wink:

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### Author: ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/35 "2013-10-17T01:26:41Z")

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> [@MYNAMEISZen](#):
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> Pathfinder looks like it would be an awesome delrin. May I ask what software you use?

I don’t believe I have ever seen that shape on a delrin, but that would be pretty cool

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### Author: ![aznnboyaZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznnboyaz/32/651830_2.png) [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/36 "2013-10-17T01:34:29Z")

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> [@Hendy](#):
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> Maybe if I save the money to have them prototyped :wink:

I smell… a smelly smell…  
Hendy x J&H  
Maybe. JUST MAYBE. If we can gather money/resources more reliably.  
But, not the near future :wink:

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### Author: ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/37 "2013-10-17T01:36:33Z")

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> [@Hendy](#):
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> Thanks! I always love me some Delrin.
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> I used Autodesk Inventor.

Did you get a student package or something?

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### Author: ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/38 "2013-10-17T06:32:09Z")

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> [@Hendy](#):
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> Here are pictures of the updated design (for now I’ll be calling it “the Wanderer”):

Ok, I spent enough time staring at your design, lol.

Now for the bad news. Nice round rims, I like that. Transitioning to a reverse down slope(evilyo style), I like that. Now… For the ‘funny spot’. That little Speed bump(raised ring) right at the corner of the gap. Your design ‘flow’ is lost right there. There is really no known advantage for that.

We all know that regardless of the shape of most yoyos, the center of the gap is always ‘in the middle of the yoyo’. ( Insert ‘duh’, here). That being said, Yoers still have a tendency to hit the gap off center, especially when moving quickly through combos. When you have a raised ring, coming off a reverse wall, your string will ‘click’ as it deflects off that raised ring. You should ‘lose that ring’ so the yoyo wall flows into the gap just like the Quake.

You may have noticed that Both owners of One Drop have posted in this thread. They read the Boards much more than people would think. And neither of them brought this to your attention. But at the same time, you can research and review Every single yoyo design and finish line production yoyo from One Drop and you will find ‘None’ that incorporate a raised ring transitioning off a reverse wall, into a gap.

Realize what may be visually appealing, is not necessarily technically functional.

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### Author: ![Hendy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/39 "2013-10-17T10:38:40Z")

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> [@yoyodoc](#):
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> Ok, I spent enough time staring at your design, lol.
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> Now for the bad news. Nice round rims, I like that. Transitioning to a reverse down slope(evilyo style), I like that. Now… For the ‘funny spot’. That little Speed bump(raised ring) right at the corner of the gap. Your design ‘flow’ is lost right there. There is really no known advantage for that.
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> We all know that regardless of the shape of most yoyos, the center of the gap is always ‘in the middle of the yoyo’. ( Insert ‘duh’, here). That being said, Yoers still have a tendency to hit the gap off center, especially when moving quickly through combos. When you have a raised ring, coming off a reverse wall, your string will ‘click’ as it deflects off that raised ring. You should ‘lose that ring’ so the yoyo wall flows into the gap just like the Quake.
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> You may have noticed that Both owners of One Drop have posted in this thread. They read the Boards much more than people would think. And neither of them brought this to your attention. But at the same time, you can research and review Every single yoyo design and finish line production yoyo from One Drop and you will find ‘None’ that incorporate a raised ring transitioning off a reverse wall, into a gap.
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> Realize what may be visually appealing, is not necessarily technically functional.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I totally see what you’re getting at there (and will fix it as soon as possible). Fortunately, I wasn’t planning on implementing this feature on any other designs. I also wasn’t considering performance with the Wanderer so much as I was with the Pathfinder.

Let’s also keep in mind, I first started truly designing yoyos three days ago. I still have a lot to learn. I’m really glad people have been willing to provide their critiques and advice so I can make future designs even better.

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### Author: ![Hendy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hendys-yoyo-design-thread-update-new-design-on-page-6/60195/40 "2013-10-17T10:44:53Z")

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> [@Philip](#):
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> I don’t believe I have ever seen that shape on a delrin, but that would be pretty cool

Currently, the RecRev Delrin Octave 3 is the only Delrin with an undercut.

> [@MYNAMEISZen](#):
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> Did you get a student package or something?

Sure did! Never turn down free professional software.

> [@aznnboyaZ](#):
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> I smell… a smelly smell…  
> Hendy x J&H  
> Maybe. JUST MAYBE. If we can gather money/resources more reliably.  
> But, not the near future :wink:

Don’t get my hopes up there buddy. :wink:

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