# Help
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/50742
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [March 13, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/50742 "2013-03-13T01:35:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/50742/1 "2013-03-13T01:35:33Z")
I want a yoyo that is under 80 that is good or best in 1a/5a/horizontal, mid to full sized, v shape or slight h shape, great on grinds,can finger spin or not
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### Author:  [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2013, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/50742/2 "2013-03-13T10:35:18Z")
A genesis sounds great for you! I would try to get a used one, as they would be 60-70$ mint and smooth for a usa one. Just like the supernova, I dont like the 2012 genesis, but some PREFER it. Also, the Catalyst is very good, and the delrin severe looks pretty cool, although that I have not played.
Unless you dont like the look for some reaosn, I would DEFINITETLY get a genesis. 2012 or not is your choice. ANd remember, 80$ can go a long way on the BST.
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### Author:  [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/50742/3 "2013-03-13T20:35:12Z")
The Xconvict Pro is V shaped, great for horizontal. Can’t grind great tho. 55
The yoyo for you is the Duncan Metropolis, it is V shaped, can grind great (being metal), long spin times ect. But it CAN’T do Thumb grinds unless it is horizontal.
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### Author:  [@J\_Singh\_2K](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/J_Singh_2K)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/50742/4 "2013-03-13T20:43:54Z")
Capless. It’s $65, full sized, plays great, is a V shape, and is a somewhat good grinder.