# HELP!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [October 10, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890 "2010-10-10T11:30:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![themaddoughnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@themaddoughnut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/themaddoughnut)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/1 "2010-10-10T11:30:37Z")
okay, by accident the other day, i got my pgm v2 axle stuck in my dark magic 2 how do i get it out?? :‘( :’( 😢 😛 \>:( ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/2 "2010-10-10T13:03:12Z")
Please make the title relevent to the topic at hand. Something like “PGM axle is stuck in DM, help needed” would be good. To change the title, modify your original post (currently your only post) and change the title of it there. What you want to do is get two nuts (nuts, like what you put on bolts to fasten things together) that go onto the axle perfectly (if they aren’t perfect, you’ll know because they won’t go any farther than a few threads). using a couple sets of pliers and/or wrenches of the correct size, tighten those two nuts against each other very tightly (it may seem like you’re going to break something, but it’ll be fine). Then use the pliers and grab both nuts and unscrew that way. ---
**Author:** ![themaddoughnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@themaddoughnut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/themaddoughnut)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/3 "2010-10-10T13:06:32Z")
> [@Apetrunk](#): > > Please make the title relevent to the topic at hand. Something like “PGM axle is stuck in DM, help needed” would be good. To change the title, modify your original post (currently your only post) and change the title of it there. > > What you want to do is get two nuts (nuts, like what you put on bolts to fasten things together) that go onto the axle perfectly (if they aren’t perfect, you’ll know because they won’t go any farther than a few threads). using a couple sets of pliers and/or wrenches of the correct size, tighten those two nuts against each other very tightly (it may seem like you’re going to break something, but it’ll be fine). Then use the pliers and grab both nuts and unscrew that way. thanks soon i will try the nut thing ---
**Author:** ![hubstack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hubstack/32/7912_2.png) [@hubstack](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hubstack)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/4 "2010-10-10T13:36:40Z")
Why is your pgm axle in your Dm2, and you could have possibly ruined your dm2 because you could have stripped/cross threaded them. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/5 "2010-10-10T20:11:07Z")
> [@Apetrunk](#): > > What you want to do is get two nuts (nuts, like what you put on bolts to fasten things together) that go onto the axle perfectly (if they aren’t perfect, you’ll know because they won’t go any farther than a few threads). using a couple sets of pliers and/or wrenches of the correct size, tighten those two nuts against each other very tightly (it may seem like you’re going to break something, but it’ll be fine). Then use the pliers and grab both nuts and unscrew that way. I’ve always had better luck putting the wrench or pliers on the nut closest to the shell. That way the one closest to the shell locks against the other one. My experience has been that grabbing both of them tends to unscrew both off the axle. But that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/6 "2010-10-10T21:11:34Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > I’ve always had better luck putting the wrench or pliers on the nut closest to the shell. That way the one closest to the shell locks against the other one. My experience has been that grabbing both of them tends to unscrew both off the axle. But that’s just me. Yeah, sometimes I get this, but it’s usually because I don’t have the nuts tight enough. ---
**Author:** ![themaddoughnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@themaddoughnut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/themaddoughnut)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/7 "2010-10-10T23:41:55Z")
please! i cant do the nut method _cough cough_ im dieing… 😢 ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/8 "2010-10-11T03:41:36Z")
Well then it looks like your only alternative is a pliers. Wrap some tape around the axle and have at it. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![themaddoughnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@themaddoughnut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/themaddoughnut)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/9 "2010-10-11T11:48:23Z")
yyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! i got it out. thanks for all your help guys(exept for you yoyo jake ps. my dm didnt break so HA!!! :P) ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/10 "2010-10-11T17:12:03Z")
> [@themaddoughnut](#): > > i got it out. thanks for all your help guys So what did you end up doing? ---
**Author:** ![themaddoughnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@themaddoughnut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/themaddoughnut)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help/19890/11 "2010-10-11T22:26:32Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > > [@themaddoughnut](#): > > > > i got it out. thanks for all your help guys > > So what did you end up doing? well actually, i couldnt figure out any of your guys soulutions, so i just used these really big pliers and got it out (like the guy above me said)but thanks anyway, guys!