# Help with my Dark Magic 1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [October 8, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825 "2010-10-08T14:39:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Yojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yojo/32/448_2.png) [@Yojo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yojo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/1 "2010-10-08T14:39:13Z")
Hey guys and gals… I love my DM1 but I’m tired of my knuckles getting smacked from snagging. I am planning on filing down the starburst and silicon in the O-ring space. I use slick-six strings. I don’t want to go ahead and mutilate my throw before I asked for your sage advice. You can’t un-file down the starburst. (file up?) Thanks in advance for your help! ---
**Author:** ![shmoe93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shmoe93/32/239_2.png) [@shmoe93](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shmoe93)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/2 "2010-10-08T14:45:35Z")
You don’t need to shave the starburst, Add shims and shave down the o-ring so it’s flush with the wall. ---
**Author:** ![Blemski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/blemski/32/682_2.png) [@Blemski](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Blemski)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/3 "2010-10-08T18:11:02Z")
My buddy shaved his starburst and silcone down and he loves it. He took a dremel to the starburst so that you can still feel it but it is not as rasied as it was. He also filed the silicone down so its flush and its alot smother now. Wrist whips dont make me nervous to try on his dm anymore lol. ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/4 "2010-10-09T00:47:10Z")
I would shave the o rings get shims and use poly string ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/5 "2010-10-09T00:58:48Z")
> [@laxdude99](#): > > I old shave the orange get shims and use poly string ??? ---
**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/6 "2010-10-09T14:29:21Z")
> [@laxdude99](#): > > I old shave the orange get shims and use poly string This translates to: > [@laxdude99](#): > > I would shave the o-ring, shim the gap, and use polyester string. ---
**Author:** ![YoyoMango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyomango/32/580_2.png) [@YoyoMango](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoMango)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/7 "2010-10-09T15:55:30Z")
> [@Yummy](#): > > > [@laxdude99](#): > > > > I old shave the orange get shims and use poly string > > This translates to: > > > [@laxdude99](#): > > > > I would shave the o-ring, shim the gap, and use polyester string. did he like have a automatic spell check or something? ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/8 "2010-10-10T01:17:28Z")
> [@Yummy](#): > > This translates to: > > > [@laxdude99](#): > > > > I would shave the o-ring, shim the gap, and use polyester string. I must’ve missed class that day. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Mi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mi1/32/626_2.png) [@Mi1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mi1)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/9 "2010-10-10T01:29:15Z")
No need to shave the starburst unless the sound is annoying you. ---
**Author:** ![Yojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yojo/32/448_2.png) [@Yojo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yojo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/10 "2010-10-10T02:19:57Z")
> [@Shmoe93](#): > > You don’t need to shave the starburst, Add shims and shave down the o-ring so it’s flush with the wall. I did shave the o-ring flush and used shims and the thing still smacks my knuckles. ---
**Author:** ![Yojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yojo/32/448_2.png) [@Yojo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yojo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/11 "2010-10-10T02:34:45Z")
Thanks for the advice peeps. I think I’m gonna go with a partial shave of the starburst and flowable silicon. I will let you know how it goes! ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/12 "2010-10-10T11:53:43Z")
> [@YoyoMango](#): > > > [@Yummy](#): > > > > > [@laxdude99](#): > > > > > > I old shave the orange get shims and use poly string > > > > This translates to: > > > > > [@laxdude99](#): > > > > > > I would shave the o-ring, shim the gap, and use polyester string. > > did he like have a automatic spell check or something? Yes my iPad fixes things it hasn’t seen before srry about that ---
**Author:** ![YoyoMango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyomango/32/580_2.png) [@YoyoMango](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoMango)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/13 "2010-10-10T17:00:32Z")
> [@laxdude99](#): > > > [@YoyoMango](#): > > > > > [@Yummy](#): > > > > > > > [@laxdude99](#): > > > > > > > > I old shave the orange get shims and use poly string > > > > > > This translates to: > > > > > > > [@laxdude99](#): > > > > > > > > I would shave the o-ring, shim the gap, and use polyester string. > > > > did he like have a automatic spell check or something? > > Yes my iPad fixes things it hasn’t seen before srry about that is the ipad cool? (straying further from the topic) ---
**Author:** ![Yojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yojo/32/448_2.png) [@Yojo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yojo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/14 "2010-10-10T22:09:23Z")
My Droid does the same thing. If I don’t pay attention I am Togo in with my magazine instead of yo-yoing with my Maverick. Technology is amazingly smart and really stupid at the same time. I do love my Droid though. ---
**Author:** ![XxKingDomxX23](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xxkingdomxx23/32/614_2.png) [@XxKingDomxX23](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XxKingDomxX23)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/15 "2010-10-24T14:59:58Z")
Dont shave the starburst i did that and didnt like it. It played great but i like it with the starbusrt. Clean the bearing and thats it. ---
**Author:** ![Yojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yojo/32/448_2.png) [@Yojo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yojo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/16 "2010-11-23T02:59:36Z")
Hey guys- here’s an update. I did go ahead and sand down the starburst and like I had said before I had cut down the o-ring to be flush to the groove already. Wth a thin lubed bearing it definitely snags a lot less and plays much smoother. It didn’t do anything to help its sleep time. I am going to purchase the large shims and a silicone o-ring as soon as I am able. Until then I am very happy with the improvements thus far. Thanks again for the help! I will update as soon as I can! ---
**Author:** ![x52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/3bc359/32.png) [@x52](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/x52)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/17 "2010-11-23T19:40:22Z")
Also put it in the widest gap setting too. ---
**Author:** ![yoyojamben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamben/32/289780_2.png) [@yoyojamben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojamben)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/18 "2010-11-24T01:20:46Z")
> [@x52](#): > > Also put it in the widest gap setting too. Preference. I play(ed) mine in the middle. ---
**Author:** ![brandoide1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/brandoide1/32/662_2.png) [@brandoide1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/brandoide1)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/19 "2010-11-25T02:30:49Z")
I’ve had a DM for a long time, and never had a problem with it. But I don’t think you should have to “shave” the starburst or the O-ring. You could just get some shims or spacers. Also, if you want it unresponsive, don’t play with a fully tightened gap on it. (know from pain and experience). Another thing you could possibly do is clean the bearing. But, bottom line, you don’t have to “shave” anything. But that’s just me. Good luck. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Yojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yojo/32/448_2.png) [@Yojo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yojo)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825/20 "2010-11-25T05:40:55Z")
My DM was my first for real 1a throw and I love it. I have played it with spacers and without. I tried removing the o-ring and replacing it with some other ring material. I even tried putting a Duncan silicone sticker over where the o-ring would go. I tried it with a dry bearing, lubed, even swapped it out with other more broken in bearings later on. None of it worked for me. Since sanding down the starburst it plays much more to my liking. Will keep you updated and I really thank you all for your opinions. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-my-dark-magic-1/19825.md?page=2)