# Help with 2nd hop on spirit bomb **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [March 9, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488 "2014-03-09T15:28:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/1 "2014-03-09T15:28:16Z")
Ok so this has been my nemesis for many years. I can land it maybe 1 in 50 attempts, and it’s always the 2nd hop that messes me up. What’s the trick for opening up the triangle enough to get the yoyo through cleanly? ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/2 "2014-03-09T18:55:39Z")
On the second hop, have your NTH index intercept the string right next to the yoyo. It really helped me when practicing it. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_S](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/paul_s/32/1142_2.png) [@Paul\_S](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paul_S)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/3 "2014-03-09T20:34:15Z")
no real secret, just use your TH thumb to open it nice and wide. ---
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/4 "2014-03-12T18:39:14Z")
push the part of the string on your wrist farther down your arm. make sure the kink in the string is far enough away from your wrist. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/5 "2014-03-12T18:48:33Z")
I found my problem was that I wasn’t set up correctly after the first pop. I was somehow hooking an extra loop of string segment around my thumb. Now that I’ve done the trick for so long, I can’t remember how I managed to accomplish that, but I did. When you do it, turn your throwhand palm up. I remember that helped. And again, though it seems intuitive now, I remember for a little while I had to focus on getting my throwhand thumb properly inside what will become the “triangle”… when I was doing it wrong, my thumb was missing that part of the triangle and I was trying to spread the wrong thing. Again, it’s hard to duplicate doing it wrong for a demonstration, but maybe the above will help somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/6 "2014-03-13T23:01:25Z")
I’m getting closer to landing it consistently, the triangle is definitely bigger now and an easier target. Thanks for the help ---
**Author:** ![atombomb3r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@atombomb3r](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/atombomb3r)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/7 "2014-03-14T23:05:04Z")
What really helped me was to try and get the yoyo as high as you can on the second hop. This will allow the triangle to open up wide. ---
**Author:** ![Mrjackthepoodle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mrjackthepoodle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mrjackthepoodle)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/8 "2014-03-17T15:40:38Z")
Honestly, your going to hate me. Spirit bomb was a super hard trick, it took me 3 weeks of consistent work to get it, and I mean an hour or two a day strictly on that darn trick. The only thing that helped me was to literally get pissed and tell that yoyo to get in the triangle. I stopped trying to make it go in and just did my pop with a wide triangle and let the forces be…and next thing I knew it was going in… I don’t know how or why but I just stopped caring and told myself it will just do. Now it goes in every time. Lol sorry I’m no help. But I know how frustrating this trick can be, I stopped throwing for a week or two because of it. Especially because when you mess this trick up the string knots almost every time. Just remember, the dude abides. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/9 "2014-03-17T15:52:00Z")
> [@Mrjackthepoodle](#): > > Honestly, your going to hate me. Spirit bomb was a super hard trick, it took me 3 weeks of consistent work to get it, and I mean an hour or two a day strictly on that darn trick. The only thing that helped me was to literally get frustrated and tell that yoyo to get in the triangle. > > I stopped trying to make it go in and just did my pop with a wide triangle and let the forces be…and next thing I knew it was going in… I don’t know how or why but I just stopped caring and told myself it will just do. Now it goes in every time. > > Lol sorry I’m no help. But I know how frustrating this trick can be, I stopped throwing for a week or two because of it. Especially because when you mess this trick up the string knots almost every time. > > Just remember, the dude abides. In other words, practice it. I hit it every now and then. I should probably work on it more now. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/10 "2014-03-17T22:54:45Z")
I need to find a super-slow-mo video from the player’s perspective so I can see where I’m going wrong…the triangle just seems really small but I don’t see a way to open it up more. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/11 "2014-03-18T00:00:24Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I need to find a super-slow-mo video from the player’s perspective so I can see where I’m going wrong…the triangle just seems really small but I don’t see a way to open it up more. My camera only does 60fps (so not MEGA slow) and then I can slow it down a bit more in edit without it looking tooooo choppy. I’ll see what I can do for you. ---
**Author:** ![Jgarcia05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jgarcia05](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jgarcia05)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/12 "2014-03-18T00:31:59Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > My camera only does 60fps (so not MEGA slow) and then I can slow it down a bit more in edit without it looking tooooo choppy. I’ll see what I can do for you. Would you mind posting it up here on the tricks forum for all to see please? This would really be helpful since I assume it would be made like how your superman video is. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/13 "2014-03-18T03:48:19Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/4/6/c4670db9dcecad9d007ad9641fa7f618d926ffc6.jpeg "Spirit Bomb Overhead and Slo-Mo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OPgnap3YMM) (non-embedded: [http://youtu.be/6OPgnap3YMM](http://youtu.be/6OPgnap3YMM)) ---
**Author:** ![Mofoya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mofoya/32/7946_2.png) [@Mofoya](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mofoya)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/14 "2014-03-18T03:59:53Z")
Awesome video GregP! Can’t get any better without a mini camera that can ride along on the yoyo! ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/15 "2014-03-18T06:38:12Z")
1. Open loop really wide with thumb 2. Catch on string as if you’re landing a kendama, use dem knees ---
**Author:** ![Gambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gambit/32/1358_2.png) [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/16 "2014-03-18T11:17:14Z")
^ That right there, is the reason why Greg is a forum expert. ;D ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-with-2nd-hop-on-spirit-bomb/64488/17 "2014-03-18T12:44:04Z")
Nah, it’s because I’m good at forum, nothing to do with yoyoing. :wink: I think! Haha!