# help on gryo flop need bad **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [April 30, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052 "2009-04-30T22:51:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yo-yo\_freak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/34f0e0/32.png) [@yo-yo\_freak](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yo-yo_freak)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/1 "2009-04-30T22:51:38Z")
when i whip it then pull it always falls off ??? ??? ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/2 "2009-04-30T23:36:48Z")
You need to whip the center. To make sure you’re doing it right, try it this way, get into a trapeze, then twist your non-throwhand so the string that was furthest away from your throwhand is now closest to it. Grab the string closest, and then pull. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoleopard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@yoyoleopard](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoleopard)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/3 "2009-05-02T18:16:05Z")
if you want to make it a bit easier you can go into a trapeze and take your right hand (if your right handed other whys do the opposite) and bring the string over to the left side of your left pointer finger and take the string that’s on the pointer fingers right side and pull thigh and then you can make it rotate by pulling and shifting your positioning of your hands. :-\ ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/4 "2009-05-04T00:50:50Z")
When I do Batryn’s way, it dies and ravels up. ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/5 "2009-05-04T04:39:52Z")
well then just keep trying,thats what happes when ur yoyo doesnt have enough spin ---
**Author:** ![obiwan1410](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e47774/32.png) [@obiwan1410](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/obiwan1410)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/6 "2009-05-05T01:24:14Z")
the way i do it is realy easy to control i start ina brain twister mount then grab the back string with yr throw hand and pool like the the normal one you do it the same way you do when you whip xept you do a brain twister mount instead ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/7 "2009-05-05T01:46:27Z")
also remember not to pull extremely hard. if you do, it will stop spinning and the yoyo will start rotating uncontrolably…i have experience… ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/8 "2009-05-05T02:52:29Z")
Try to keep the string from rubbing the sides. ---
**Author:** ![Mage1342](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mage1342/32/75_2.png) [@Mage1342](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mage1342)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/9 "2009-05-05T03:10:14Z")
Another way to do it is to start to go into a double or nothing but land in the back string and drop the string that is help on by two hands with your left and pull. (This is a right handed tutorial) If you need a more in-depth tutorial, I will be happy to help you and I may or may not be able to post a video up. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/10 "2009-05-05T04:37:00Z")
Just twist a trapeze and pull 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![polloyoyo12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@polloyoyo12](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/polloyoyo12)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-on-gryo-flop-need-bad/2052/11 "2009-05-05T22:10:20Z")
this is how i learned. Get into a trapeze then with your throw hand pinch the string farthest away from your throw hand and pull