# Help me understand the scoring system

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [May 10, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657 "2024-05-10T20:15:54Z")
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### Author: ![yocolas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yocolas/32/592703_2.png) [@yocolas](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yocolas)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657/1 "2024-05-10T20:15:54Z")

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(context: i just jumped back to yoyoing and already relearned a few advanced tricks, and a few days ago my country national yoyo federation announced there will be a national comp, and i’m determined to win.)

I know that each elements=clicks, what i don’t understand is how does those clicks translates to scoreboard, what decides that it will be what it is, for example gentry’s 2014 winning routine got him 53.8 points on the scoreboard, meanwhile my country’s 2023 national winner got a 59.8, and Mir Kim got a perfect 60, how does it calculated?

I’m asking this because i’m going to be making my routine based on how many clicks it would get, and i need to know how much i would need

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### Author: ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657/2 "2024-05-10T20:37:25Z")

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clicks are what we call normalized in the math world after all the performances are done, so the raw clicker values aren’t easy to obtain without asking judges

for example if we take three yoyoers, A, B and C, and just one judge

yoyoer A clicks +100 -10, so 90 total  
yoyoer B clicks +80 -5, so 75 total  
yoyoer C clicks +30 -20, so 10 total

now, obviously there’s only 60 points available for technical execution, so we normalize them:

`clicker_score * 60 / highest_clicked_score`

If we apply this to all the yoyoers:

yoyoer A is `90 * 60 / 90` = `60 points`  
yoyoer B is `75 * 60 / 90` = `50 points`  
yoyoer C is `10 * 60 / 90` = `6.66 points`

If we had multiple judges, then you would average all the judges values at the end, so say you also clicked yoyoers A B and C and got:

A: +90 -8 (82 total)  
B: +95 -4 (91 total)  
C: +20 -10 (10 total)

your normalized score values would be:  
A = `82 * 60 / 91` = 54.07  
B = `91 * 60 / 91` = 60  
C = `10 * 60 / 91` = 6.59

then we would average together to get final scores for A, B and C:  
`final_score = (judge1score + judge2score) / 2`

so:  
A = `(60 + 54.07) / 2` = 57.07  
B = `(50 + 60) / 2` = 55.0  
C = `(6.66 + 6.59) / 2` = 6.63

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### Author: ![yocolas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yocolas/32/592703_2.png) [@yocolas](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yocolas)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657/3 "2024-05-10T20:47:51Z")

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that’s a very clear helpful explanation, thanks man👍

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### Author: ![Shwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shwa/32/108351_2.png) [@Shwa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shwa)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657/4 "2024-05-11T10:07:30Z")

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Good luck with the competition!!

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### Author: ![yocolas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yocolas/32/592703_2.png) [@yocolas](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yocolas)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2024, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657/5 "2024-05-11T10:35:25Z")

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thanks man, it’s probably gonna be december, i’ll be needing early christmas miracle as well

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### Author: ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657/6 "2024-05-11T19:49:49Z")

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Check out Gentry Stein’s “How to become a yoyo champion” series on YouTube if you haven’t already.

Lots of a good advice/breakdown there

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### Author: ![yocolas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yocolas/32/592703_2.png) [@yocolas](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yocolas)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657/7 "2024-05-11T23:12:21Z")

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i’ve watched the series multiple time, a few years ago i also planned to compete, i got the routine and choreography ready, then i went to a dorm high school in the neighboring city, so i never had the chance to compete

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### Author: ![Sergio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sergio/32/70931_2.png) [@Sergio](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sergio)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2024, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657/8 "2024-05-12T06:43:50Z")

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you should film your routine and share it with other yoyo players for feed back

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### Author: ![yocolas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yocolas/32/592703_2.png) [@yocolas](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yocolas)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657/9 "2024-05-13T12:42:01Z")

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i’m thinking of making a blog thread on what trick i learned that day, got into the process of making a routine, and feedback from people here, it’s gonna be a forever edited blog, atleast until the competition ended, you got any idea how should i aproach this?

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### Author: ![yocolas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yocolas/32/592703_2.png) [@yocolas](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yocolas)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-understand-the-scoring-system/400657/10 "2024-05-13T12:44:28Z")

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and what should i title the blog post?
