# Help me pick an organic please!
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [November 18, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830 "2021-11-18T20:06:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@jjdddn1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjdddn1)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/1 "2021-11-18T20:06:27Z")
Some background: I ordered a garret but JK messed up and mailed me both the 420 & the garret… I did, out of ultimate curiosity, play with the 420 for a short while before I returned it… And I gotta agree that it’s something really special. I don’t have much experience with organic throws but now I’m super interested…
So now I’m thinking about picking up one (or two) organic throws on Black Friday (from YYE). I added some into the cart (Don, Kappa, Mowl Q) but not sure which one to get.
I’m looking for something floaty, nimble, soft and FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN. Ultimately I want to get the Grail (at a reasonable price) but you know how hard it is…
Thanks in advance!
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### Author:  [@yoyojoe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojoe)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/2 "2021-11-18T20:10:35Z")
Kappa is a good choice. I think it fits your specifications and I thought it was pretty close to the life.
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### Author:  [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/3 "2021-11-18T20:11:27Z")
If fun is the #1 goal, I’d highly suggest picking up a Panorama off of the BST if you can find one. Funnest yoyo I own.
Mowl Q will be great tho if you’re buying off of the YYE store.
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### Author:  [@Jo.Mo.YoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jo.Mo.YoYo)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/4 "2021-11-18T20:13:00Z")
Recess Joyride
Freehand One AL small or large bearing
Fair Trade Yoyos has an organic coming out soon called the 138 that I am pretty stoked about.
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### Author:  [@AKYOYOMIKE](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AKYOYOMIKE)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/5 "2021-11-18T20:18:37Z")
The Don is fantastic. You won’t regret it.
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### Author:  [@djinni\_cake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/djinni_cake)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/6 "2021-11-18T20:31:27Z")
In no particular order, and restricted to what’s in stock at YYE currently
Saboteur
Kappa
Kapital
Don (brass or steel are awesome but play a little differently)
Also, the First Base is still one of my favorite organic throws, and cheap though to be easy to justify.
Some out of stock / harder to find suggestions:
Mk1 Contact
RSO Gravity
Atmos Cloudberry
Damian Puckett Duality (or DualiTi)
PDX Batsquatch
One Drop Parlay
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### Author:  [@Shapapy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shapapy)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/7 "2021-11-18T20:51:26Z")
I don’t know why the First Base doesn’t come up more in these organic discussions. It plays exceptionally well for being a $20 plastic organic yoyo.
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### Author:  [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/8 "2021-11-18T20:58:32Z")
> [@jjdddn1](#):
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> Mowl Q
This one is good and a personal favorite for the last year, you should also look into the FH1AL as your second pick up.
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### Author:  [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/9 "2021-11-18T21:01:59Z")
Assassin has organic rims and its small enough where you won’t be able to feel the open gap, just the rims. It’s also all stainless steel and SUPER affordable. Best edc around according to many people.
Besides that saboteur is very fun and gives a nice old/mid school feel but with a new school width.
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### Author:  [@Roy\_Dodge](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Roy_Dodge)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/10 "2021-11-18T21:28:26Z")
It’s a solid yoyo for sure, but you answered your own question with the qualifier.
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### Author:  [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/11 "2021-11-18T22:25:54Z")
Both the Kappa and the Q are fantastic, you can’t go wrong with either one. The Q will be closer in feel/play to an A-RT Grail as it’s ~3.5 grams lighter and slightly larger than the Kappa, so it will feel more “floaty” and nimble on the string.
I don’t think you can go wrong with the pair and I feel like they’re different enough that they will compliment each other as far as types of organics. The Kappa will be a bit more “competition” geared since it has more weight (translating to more power) while still having the super comfortable organic feel. I like lighter yo-yos but the Kappa distributes its weight really well. Then the Q will give you an idea of how large light organics like the Grail play.
Frankly the Kappa is one of my all time favorite yo-yos and if I had to choose only one of those two, I’d pick the Kappa.
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### Author:  [@JEA86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JEA86)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/12 "2021-11-18T22:38:38Z")
Fair trade YoYo 138 is a nice undersized organic to look for,
The grail is the best organic of all time in my opinion
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/13 "2021-11-18T23:28:20Z")
Not fully organic but very close, the Pyro X is a great playing yoyo. Super fun throw for fairly cheap.
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### Author:  [@hotei](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hotei)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/14 "2021-11-18T23:38:22Z")
Markmont Magnum Opus.
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### Author:  [@Shapapy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shapapy)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/15 "2021-11-18T23:38:52Z")
I just ordered one of these yesterday on a whim. Excited to see how it plays!
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### Author:  [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/16 "2021-11-19T00:00:57Z")
Putting in a good world for the Yo-yo officer Zealot. Not hyped. Rarely mentioned by the organic crowd.
But a seriously fun YoYo.
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### Author:  [@Shwa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shwa)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/17 "2021-11-19T00:22:22Z")
pick up a GRAIL tonight…
> [@FS: YYF Catch22, Code2,Tp Postiron MK, Scout Rainbow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-art-grail-yyf-catch-22-chief-rare-scout-code2-some-yyfs-looking-for-palpilation/343537):
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> Hi I have for sell some yoyos in Europe Poland and some in USA. So first i start yoyos located in poland (shipp is quickly) Tp positron marcus koh pink mint with bag-140$ Shipped [image] Thats all in Poland, Second part yoyos in USA 1.YYF Catch 22 with all nm price 850$ shipped [image] [image] Code 2 clear mint 60$ shipped Scout rainbow trout mint rare 320$ shipped [image] Looking for tp Palpilation
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### Author:  [@jjdddn1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjdddn1)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2021, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/18 "2021-11-19T01:16:48Z")
Unfortunately it’s above my budget… I’m totally fine paying the ticket price but $200 is just a bit too much for me.
Guess I’ll have to wait for the next run.
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### Author:  [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/19 "2021-11-19T01:19:05Z")
I was under the impression that the Grail is not getting another run
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### Author:  [@jjdddn1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjdddn1)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-pick-an-organic-please/347830/20 "2021-11-19T01:20:03Z")
But the b7 might, right?
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