# Help me out **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [March 3, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315 "2013-03-03T18:12:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tykie22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tykie22](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tykie22)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/1 "2013-03-03T18:12:54Z")
What yoyo should i get to upgrade and get better? ---
**Author:** ![yoyofool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofool/32/398_2.png) [@yoyofool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofool)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/2 "2013-03-03T18:15:44Z")
> [@tykie22](#): > > What yoyo should i get to upgrade and get better? What yoyo’s do you have right now? That will be the best info in determining what to upgrade to. When I first started I bought a Dark Magic and made it a ways through Andre’s tutorials, and then upgraded to a DV888 and finished them out. ---
**Author:** ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/3 "2013-03-03T18:35:39Z")
> [@yoyofool](#): > > > [@tykie22](#): > > > > What yoyo should i get to upgrade and get better? > > What yoyo’s do you have right now? That will be the best info in determining what to upgrade to. When I first started I bought a Dark Magic and made it a ways through Andre’s tutorials, and then upgraded to a DV888 and finished them out. Same here. I throw a G5 now though. I love it. Haha ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/4 "2013-03-03T18:39:40Z")
Doesn’t hurt to get a new yoyo now and then, but the only thing that will make you better is practice. ---
**Author:** ![kulazndoode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kulazndoode/32/1251_2.png) [@kulazndoode](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kulazndoode)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/5 "2013-03-03T18:40:52Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > Doesn’t hurt to get a new yoyo now and then, but the only thing that will make you better is practice. ---
**Author:** ![yoyofool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofool/32/398_2.png) [@yoyofool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofool)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/6 "2013-03-03T18:47:04Z")
True practice makes everything better. But it was certainly easier to do trick with a Dark Magic when I upgraded to it from a Lyn Fury. Same can be said when I upgraded from a Dark Magic to a DV888. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/7 "2013-03-03T18:51:57Z")
> [@yoyofool](#): > > True practice makes everything better. But it was certainly easier to do trick with a Dark Magic when I upgraded to it from a Lyn Fury. Same can be said when I upgraded from a Dark Magic to a DV888. really? I can do everything with a DMII that i can with an Avalanche. that’s not much though. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![skitrz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skitrz/32/849_2.png) [@skitrz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skitrz)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/8 "2013-03-03T19:16:31Z")
Getting better is more dependant on attitude and practice (effort) than the yoyo. Getting a new yo can refresh the attitude though and improve motivation. :wink: Let us know what you have and what you are considering getting and we can probably supply some suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![tykie22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tykie22](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tykie22)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/9 "2013-03-05T21:36:30Z")
I started with a freehand and now i have metal zero and i really need help to find a yoyo that will sleep longer than what i have so i can get better tricks. ---
**Author:** ![TTTYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tttyo/32/1280_2.png) [@TTTYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TTTYo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/10 "2013-03-05T21:41:59Z")
Grab a Classic, and throw in a large C bearing. Or get a Protostar Or a DM2 The list goes on and on and on and on… ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/11 "2013-03-06T18:18:49Z")
What I did wAs Yomega Hyperwarp heavy Wing Zen 4 great throw $44.99 Majesty Genesis Cliff I would Definitely suggest a zen 4 super light floaty long spin times still one my favorite throws mine is even super beat since it was my first metal but it’s still super smooth ---
**Author:** ![abby1371](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abby1371/32/1075_2.png) [@abby1371](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abby1371)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/12 "2013-03-06T18:38:49Z")
> [@tykie22](#): > > I started with a freehand and now i have metal zero and i really need help to find a yoyo that will sleep longer than what i have so i can get better tricks. what’s your budget? If you want a new cheap throw that does what you want a legacy or trigger will do fine. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/13 "2013-03-06T18:48:50Z")
I’d say to pick from this list: Adegle PSG Adegle Asteroid C3 alpha crash (My personal preference) yoyojam trigger yoyojam chaser yoyojam pinnacle yoyofactory protostar yoyofactory northstar Yoyofactory Onestar ---
**Author:** ![stumbl1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@stumbl1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stumbl1)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/14 "2013-03-06T19:47:38Z")
> [@tykie22](#): > > I started with a freehand and now i have metal zero and i really need help to find a yoyo that will sleep longer than what i have so i can get better tricks. a lot of people on here love those 2 throws and would say they can sleep long enough for you to do any of the tricks on the trick list of yoyoexpert. If those two aren’t sleeping long it could be your throw or they could need maintenance. If you have the wide bearing spacers in and you are still having a issue i would look at the bearing cleaning threads or just buy a new bearing. if you really want a new yoyo just to get a new yoyo then I would agree with all the suggestions that have been made so far but you can get good with the ones you already have if that’s what you are worried about. ---
**Author:** ![TurboChicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/turbochicken/32/1311_2.png) [@TurboChicken](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TurboChicken)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/15 "2013-03-06T21:11:48Z")
The Metal Zero… If you haven’t yet -clean the bearing -only use one friction sticker -worse case scenario get a another bearing You can do any of the tricks in the tutorials with a Metal Zero. If you just want new shiny yoyo… figure out your budget and find one that looks cool! I will admit that a new yoyo can add a little something. When the stuff above doesn’t get your the required results… There is alway’s the fabled but legendary catsup mod. ---
**Author:** ![Berdo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Berdo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Berdo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/16 "2013-03-06T22:36:36Z")
I you’re getting unresponsive , The yoyo empire throws are really good for the price. ---
**Author:** ![tykie22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tykie22](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tykie22)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/17 "2013-03-07T21:39:04Z")
I dont have a limit I just need a yoyo good spin time and really good for complex string tricks ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/18 "2013-03-07T21:59:14Z")
Pop a Centertrac in your Metal Zero Or just clean the bearing an you should be fine but if you just want a new throw I would gets the Zen 4 super fast long spin times and good looking ---
**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/19 "2013-03-08T01:06:03Z")
> [@tykie22](#): > > I dont have a limit I just need a yoyo good spin time and really good for complex string tricks What do you have what tricks are you learning and what is your budget? If you want something not to expensive but good enough to do almost every trick get a DM2 Protostar or Northstar. The OneStar is a new one if you like pink and zebras ;). ---
**Author:** ![abby1371](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abby1371/32/1075_2.png) [@abby1371](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abby1371)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315/20 "2013-03-08T23:00:31Z")
For me my budget is usually under $80 due to me never having a lot of money at one time. And right now I’m learning hook. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-out/50315.md?page=2)