# Help me choose something PLS **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [December 17, 2014, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403 "2014-12-17T13:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![demskills](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@demskills](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/demskills)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/1 "2014-12-17T13:35:41Z")
Cant decide pls ---
**Author:** ![\_RTD\_alecto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_rtd_alecto/32/1336_2.png) [@\_RTD\_alecto](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_RTD_alecto)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/2 "2014-12-17T13:37:43Z")
i have never heard of the Qu4ro… what is it exactly?? ---
**Author:** ![demskills](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@demskills](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/demskills)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/3 "2014-12-17T13:41:49Z")
> [@alecto](#): > > i have never heard of the Qu4ro… what is it exactly?? it s not that popular. it s a yyf yoyo i dont think it s still produced anymore.go search it,it preety dank. ---
**Author:** ![FLUFFALO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/59ef9b/32.png) [@FLUFFALO](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FLUFFALO)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/4 "2014-12-17T13:57:43Z")
The shutter and the horizon are both great, but very similar yoyos. In terms of verstility the horizon is basically made for long finger spins, the shutter you can do them as well but i think the horizon will get you more bang for your buck. But you really can not go wrong with either. They are both great to learn horizontal play with as well because of there shape and weight and size. So I would say go for the horizon so you can learn fingerspins better and add more tricks to your bag. ---
**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/5 "2014-12-17T13:59:51Z")
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**Author:** ![UsagiCat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/usagicat/32/1482_2.png) [@UsagiCat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/UsagiCat)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/6 "2014-12-17T14:19:41Z")
Having tried the shutter and horizon, I can say between the two that I much prefer the shutter. The shutter has a bit more of a comfortable “familiar” feel in the hand compared to the horizon which allows me to perform better myself. The horizon is great don’t get me wrong! Just not as much of a yoyo I would use very often. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/7 "2014-12-17T14:36:10Z")
Shutter all the way in my opinion. The Horizon just has a weird uncomfortable shape to it IMO ---
**Author:** ![hobbyman101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@hobbyman101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbyman101)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/8 "2014-12-17T14:47:34Z")
> [@alecto](#): > > i have never heard of the Qu4ro… what is it exactly?? Ditto I voted Shutter. Have you looked at the Cypher. In my opinion it is a far better throw. ---
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/9 "2014-12-17T14:50:18Z")
> [@alecto](#): > > i have never heard of the Qu4ro… what is it exactly?? I’ve heard of it. I think it was a Europe-only release. ---
**Author:** ![Gambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gambit/32/1358_2.png) [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/10 "2014-12-17T15:54:43Z")
The Shutter/Horizon debate is discussed partially here: > **[Shutter VS. Horizon?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,80140.0.html)** > > I’ve seen a couple other posts on this topic, but the replies didn’t touch on the things that I’m concerned about. One thing that I’ve picked up is that the Horizon is over-sized but amazing at finger-spins. People have said that the spin time is... …and within that thread I link to another thread where it is discussed even further. Inception style.  ;D ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/11 "2014-12-17T16:21:10Z")
> [@Gambit](#): > > The Shutter/Horizon debate is discussed partially here: > > [Shutter VS. Horizon? - Looking for Help/Recommendation - YoYoExpert](http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,80140.0.html) > > …and within that thread I link to another thread where it is discussed even further. Inception style.  ;D A dream within a dream within a dream then its limbo ---
**Author:** ![demskills](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@demskills](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/demskills)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-me-choose-something-pls/71403/12 "2014-12-17T18:46:35Z")
> [@hobbyman101](#): > > Ditto > > I voted Shutter. Have you looked at the Cypher. In my opinion it is a far better throw. they dont have the cypher here.as a kid,i dont want to pay a fortune on shipping.Thx anyway