# Help ID some old YYJ throws **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 27, 2026, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-id-some-old-yyj-throws/448005 "2026-06-27T14:09:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bountiful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bountiful](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bountiful)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-id-some-old-yyj-throws/448005/1 "2026-06-27T14:09:41Z")
I found my yoyo collection at my parents house after moving out and getting some of my things back from them but I have no idea what a couple of them are. I figured some of you guys could ID them better than I can. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/8/e/98ecee6a5dee4fa17756ef6de97a1964bef3f72b.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/a/1/6a11b71835dafa629ec5f6e023388c546907d277.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Will](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/will/32/687327_2.png) [@Will](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Will)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-id-some-old-yyj-throws/448005/2 "2026-06-27T14:24:05Z")
Black rims looks like a Dark Magic II, and the raw rims is a Vigilante ---
**Author:** ![Bountiful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bountiful](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bountiful)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-id-some-old-yyj-throws/448005/3 "2026-06-27T17:11:53Z")
Too wide for a dark magic II (left). I had the same thought at first, my fault for not mentioning it. The red/raw is most definitely a vigilante after looking up pics, thanks for the help on that one! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/1/1/0114a9314ee7afa20f920c24dcd6f947edab702a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bountiful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bountiful](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bountiful)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-id-some-old-yyj-throws/448005/4 "2026-06-27T17:21:55Z")
As a gee whiz, here’s the whole collection (minus a 5ive and a “the Edge”) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/1/f/91fe18d8b31a0da80bb6c1c77cc7720f8d51f251.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Will](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/will/32/687327_2.png) [@Will](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Will)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-id-some-old-yyj-throws/448005/5 "2026-06-27T17:33:32Z")
It definitely looks like a Dark Magic 2. It’s not much wider than the one shown on the left, that just doesn’t seem to have a bearing… ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-id-some-old-yyj-throws/448005/6 "2026-06-27T17:48:08Z")
I’m inclined to agree with this. Throw a bearing in both and measure them. ---
**Author:** ![Bountiful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bountiful](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bountiful)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-id-some-old-yyj-throws/448005/7 "2026-06-27T17:55:10Z")
Holy crap. I didn’t even think to check for a bearing on the one with caps. Upon realizing that you were right about the bearing I dug through my case for some bearings and found the caps. What a jackpot, both of the DM II’s are in like 9/10 condition. Thanks for your help guys!! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/7/b/b7bb42e088458567360b6c0a5655a61e8114f17b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bountiful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bountiful](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bountiful)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-id-some-old-yyj-throws/448005/8 "2026-06-27T18:06:59Z")
I just tried to find a listing of it online to see if the original price was different than a standard color and I couldn’t find anything. Do you know how rare this black rim model is? ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2026, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/help-id-some-old-yyj-throws/448005/9 "2026-06-28T00:15:44Z")
> [@Bountiful](#): > > I just tried to find a listing of it online to see if the original price was different than a standard color As I recall, YYJ priced all color schemes the same. I paid the same for my blue/gold DM II as for a red one with solver rims. Same for my Blue/gold HM and my blue/gold HM X.