# Having Trouble With Dark Magic Thumb Grinds? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [March 22, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610 "2010-03-22T00:30:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![king825](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/king825/32/347_2.png) [@king825](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/king825)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/1 "2010-03-22T00:30:00Z")
Well, I have a Dark Magic, and one thing I hear from people is how they rave about the thumb grinds on it. However, crazy as it seems, I have difficulty doing so. Do you grind on the outer ring (too small of a surface area for me to keep my thumb on) and there’s also an inner ring type deal (keeps on slipping off) So the queston is, what ring do you use? And if grinds on this yoyo require fingernails, they are something I do not possess. ---
**Author:** ![yoyojamben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamben/32/289780_2.png) [@yoyojamben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojamben)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/2 "2010-03-22T00:36:02Z")
> [@king825](#): > > And if grinds on this yoyo require fingernails, they are something I do not possess. … ---
**Author:** ![kevlar14](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kevlar14/32/125_2.png) [@kevlar14](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevlar14)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/3 "2010-03-22T00:43:33Z")
> [@Born2YoYo](#): > > > [@king825](#): > > > > And if grinds on this yoyo require fingernails, they are something I do not possess. > > … … ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/4 "2010-03-22T01:07:47Z")
> [@king825](#): > > Well, I have a Dark Magic, and one thing I hear from people is how they rave about the thumb grinds on it. However, crazy as it seems, I have difficulty doing so. Do you grind on the outer ring (too small of a surface area for me to keep my thumb on) and there’s also an inner ring type deal (keeps on slipping off) > > So the queston is, what ring do you use? > > And if grinds on this yoyo require fingernails, they are something I do not possess. To answer your question, the ring designed for grinding is the inner one IMO. The outer ring is really tight to get into, and it just doesnt happen for me… ---
**Author:** ![Kristiawan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kristiawan/32/366_2.png) [@Kristiawan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kristiawan)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/5 "2010-03-22T02:04:54Z")
Outer lip grind can happen, longer fingger nails helps a lot. Inner lip is easier, if it slip on you, tilt the yoyo little bit towards yourself, it help me a lot when i first learn it. Also, based on my experience, grinding on the outer lip give more grind time for some reason. Hope this help. ---
**Author:** ![Newbies\_United](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/newbies_united/32/440_2.png) [@Newbies\_United](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Newbies_United)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/6 "2010-03-22T02:20:45Z")
If you have gloves, like knit gloves, you can grind very easily. ---
**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/7 "2010-03-22T02:22:05Z")
Those will only hinder you on thumb grinds. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_rocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Johnny\_rocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Johnny_rocks)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/8 "2010-03-22T14:08:39Z")
it helps a lot to thumb grind almost like your giving a thumbs up! i went from not being able to thumb grind, to being able to thumb grind for like 6 and a half seconds!!! ---
**Author:** ![king825](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/king825/32/347_2.png) [@king825](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/king825)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/9 "2010-03-22T20:40:05Z")
Just so you know, I’m not new to thumb grinds at all, just on this particular yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_rocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Johnny\_rocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Johnny_rocks)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/10 "2010-03-22T22:04:06Z")
> [@king825](#): > > Just so you know, I’m not new to thumb grinds at all, just on this particular yoyo. i know, it’s just that a lot of the time i see Andre doing thumb grinds with the flat of his thumb facing the ground, and not with his thumb up. ---
**Author:** ![king825](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/king825/32/347_2.png) [@king825](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/king825)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/11 "2010-03-23T17:09:55Z")
> [@Johnny\_rocks](#): > > it helps a lot to thumb grind almost like your giving a thumbs up! > > i went from not being able to thumb grind, to being able to thumb grind for like 6 and a half seconds!!! How I’ve always done it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_rocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Johnny\_rocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Johnny_rocks)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/having-trouble-with-dark-magic-thumb-grinds/12610/12 "2010-03-23T18:37:51Z")
[/quote] How I’ve always done it. [/quote] ok, then i have no idea why thumb grinds with the DM aren’t working? sorry. ☹ ☹