# Haven't thrown since 2007, bring a "back to beginner" up to date during Halloween Sale! **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\ **Created:** [November 1, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061 "2019-11-01T14:41:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/62 "2019-11-02T00:29:26Z")
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**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/63 "2019-11-02T00:29:36Z")
> [@MoonageMin](#): > > With high risk of putting everyone right off and going back to a replay pro recommendations. > Just made a quick video on my current skill level. > The struggle is real I can’t seem to do anything anymore, nothing is smooth anymore (lol was it ever?) and yeah struggling with even basics like trapeze whips as it is obviously evident in the video but give me a few more days/weeks to get back so that I can start building back from where I left off before. > > Sorry for the quality, both the skills but I mean about the footage, it;'s shot on my phone > > Videos of me doing the most basic tricks only: In my defence since I got back to throwing I have been practising front style tricks mainly but no one wants to see barrel rolls… ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/64 "2019-11-02T00:30:40Z")
I wasn’t even that smooth and proficient before I moved to high-quality metal yoyos full-time. I think that once you get a VTWO in play, you will be amazed at the results you get. ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/65 "2019-11-02T00:31:22Z")
I think I will do it anyway, just to try a titanic yoyo but yeah first the Halloween sale! maybe in parallel or just after but I do like small throws being used to that size more. ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/66 "2019-11-02T00:37:51Z")
You are FAR too hard on yourself! I think you did great for just jumping back in after 10+ years!! ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/67 "2019-11-02T00:43:06Z")
Haha thanks zslane, I know it’s the archer not the arrow, but I love new arrows 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/68 "2019-11-02T00:49:39Z")
Note that I think @zslane is ridiculously overselling the VTwo. It’s good, for sure, but it isn’t the God Yo-Yo he makes it out to be. I could point to 50-100 other yo-yos that were just as good if not better. TL;DR there are a _lot_ of excellent choices. Beware anyone who tells you just one of them is perfect… ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/69 "2019-11-02T00:52:02Z")
Thank you Twitch, but did you see my whip fail / fails. i did decide to try one more time before giving up which landed thankfully. Yeah kind of threw together a random combo but wanted you guys to gauge my level hoping it might help in helping me make a decision. I started doing matrix with the double wrap flyaway dismount thing, where you do this below, but I kept hitting my arm for some reason today, so decided to keep it simple instead. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/9/d/19d6dbb85cdddce5eecca84ed05f0ccf03f68e9c.jpeg "Just learnt Matrix (2/11/19)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV7Jw1HoZgE) ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/70 "2019-11-02T00:52:53Z")
Yeah, hopefully it is clear that the VTWO is merely my favorite among the nearly one hundred yoyos I’ve tried over the course of the last year+. I figure that anyone who already likes One Drops and likes V-shaped yoyos and is leaning towards a monometal might feel the same way, that’s all. I don’t want anyone to think I expect _everyone_ to have the same experience with it that I’ve had. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/71 "2019-11-02T00:54:49Z")
Yeah, but you have to replace the flat bearing to get decent performance, so… extra cost. Mostly people should pick based on aesthetics at this point, IMO. Everything is so amazingly great. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/72 "2019-11-02T00:57:19Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Yeah, but you have to replace the flat bearing to get decent performance, so… extra cost. Agreed. Turns out that, for me at least, it is worth the added cost. I’ve spent considerably more than $99.99 + $5.99 for a yoyo that didn’t play as nicely, so I still consider the VTWO a bargain. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/73 "2019-11-02T00:58:18Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Note that I think @zslane is ridiculously overselling the VTwo. It’s good, for sure, but it isn’t the God Yo-Yo he makes it out to be. I could point to 50-100 other yo-yos that were just as good if not better. > > TL;DR there are a _lot_ of excellent choices. Beware anyone who tells you just one of them is perfect… Yeah I totally understand your point and at the same time, by now I think zslane understood that I know that any yoyo is not a magic bullet, just if I were to buy one this would be a good starting point to help me learn tricks with a little added help. Also didn’t help that I decided to rule out bimetals, put some sort of budget restriction and then made it clear that I am kind of leaning towards a OD yoyo just because nostalgia. And limited to what’s available on this site, because 15% off… Anyway I understood it as the way I think he meant and then again it’s all personal preference. Just like how I never played with the Ti-walker or was around during the hype (justified or not, probably more than justified 🙂) but I still really want a vayder. I think the line between playing and owning new yoyos gets blurred and that is part of the fun of this hobby hehe. Love you both! ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/74 "2019-11-02T01:01:21Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Yeah, but you have to replace the flat bearing to get decent performance, so… extra cost. > > Mostly people should pick based on aesthetics at this point, IMO. Everything is so amazingly great. Yeah I mentioned I liked the aesthetic, and it comes in brown! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/75 "2019-11-02T01:02:33Z")
> [@zslane](#): > > Agreed. > > Turns out that, for me at least, it is worth the added cost. I’ve spent considerably more than $99.99 + $5.99 for a yoyo that didn’t play as nicely, so I still consider the VTWO a bargain. 😃 Both great points and I really really appreciate the candid feedback and helping me out. Bearings I was already kind of planning to pick some up to try so we can remove that cost as sunk cost I think ---
**Author:** ![feryuweryu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/feryuweryu/32/42092_2.png) [@feryuweryu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/feryuweryu)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/76 "2019-11-02T01:13:38Z")
Seeing you are already eyeing the VTWO I’ll suggest something in contrast to the VTWO in terms of speed and light feel like the Magpie and the Hummingbird, I’d also recommend the Corruption and the CadenceES weren’t for them not being in stock… ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/77 "2019-11-02T01:15:18Z")
> [@MarkD](#): > > If you want something a bit off the beaten path (though I know OD is good, their modern stuff is really nice), I released my first yo-yo design here on Yoyoexpert earlier this year: > > ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/2X/a/aae9e669122d7c2614db56c4d7d3a02b9a1cb66c.png) [YoYoExpert](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/diffraction-2-by-mk1-yoyos?_pos=1&_sid=85e05d887&_ss=r&variant=30599483359306) > > ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/3X/b/b/bba6116e1317b5838513b35ed1a42c7058a64893.jpeg) > > ### [Diffraction 2](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/diffraction-2-by-mk1-yoyos?_pos=1&_sid=85e05d887&_ss=r&variant=30599483359306) > > Introducing the Diffraction 2 by Mk1 Yo-Yos! A company created by YoYoExpert Forum member MarkD! The original Diffraction design was inspired by conversations online with Jordan Blofeld (of Smashing and OP YOYOs). Taking inspiration from… > > Price: $ 69.99 USD Brand: MK1 YoYos > > ![Diffraction2-Extra2_1024x1024.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/9/9/c99297c89889971bad3c2761c2bf840df1fe84d1.jpeg) > > It’s gotten some good reviews, and I’m really happy with the design. > > You can read more about my yo-yo company [here](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mk-1-yoyos/294446). @MarkD I tried searching for videos and forum posts etc but I couldn’t find much. i watched one by Definitive Yoyo can you point me in the right direction if there are more? Also read all the posts on this forum using the search but found only a few threads. [edit] Just watched the video made by @Mazdarx7FD too 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/78 "2019-11-02T01:25:17Z")
> [@feryuweryu](#): > > Seeing you are already eyeing the VTWO I’ll suggest something in contrast to the VTWO in terms of speed and light feel like the Magpie and the Hummingbird, I’d also recommend the Corruption and the CadenceES weren’t for them not being in stock… Just checked them out but haven’t got as far as looking at reviews (as they are sold out now anyway) but both looks nice! As for the two yoyofriends yoyo, these are definitely, especially the Hummingbird, on my list already for my third or forth yoyo when I get a bimetal (4th if I picked up a Vayder before then) so thank you for the suggestions! The Magpie also looks great, but I just got the Dove which will be the one I carry around with me so, although it doesn’t have to be, but would like to try a non-yoyofriend yoyo as a second yoyo to use alongside. 🙂 You know for variety and to keep things fresh over time. Once my collection grows a bit more I don’t care much for overlaps but for now yeah. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/79 "2019-11-02T01:26:51Z")
For what’s it’s worth, the Hummingbird is my favorite bi-metal. Just sayin’… :+1: ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/80 "2019-11-02T01:31:18Z")
> [@feryuweryu](#): > > Magpie Yeah, I just got done playing around with my Magpie! What a lovely throw!! ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/81 "2019-11-02T01:35:20Z")
> [@zslane](#): > > For what’s it’s worth, the Hummingbird is my favorite bi-metal. Just sayin’… :+1: Well the Dove really does it for me from what limited use I had so far (3 hours yesterday + a bit today) so yoyofriends are def a big + in my books now, never heard of them before, guessing relatively new (lol since 2007 so what am I even saying). So far, not that i looked too much into it, Hummingbird, Iceberg (although i understand that this is a hybrid plastic), Draupsagpfhaphnir Overdrive, Duncans (not specific yet Haymaker, Grasshopper, orbital), Anomaly, Bakemono are in my crosshairs [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061.md?page=5)