# Has anyone shaved down a Cabal gut axle and tried a half spec C? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [May 21, 2026, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060 "2026-05-21T11:25:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/1 "2026-05-21T11:25:56Z")
It is too long to completely close as is with a half spec, and wondering if it plays nice and responsive that way. Could be a cool way to make a Delrin Deepest State or other various modern responsives ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/2 "2026-05-21T11:46:37Z")
I don’t have any Cabal guts… but if I did, I assure you that I most certainly would have done this if possible. I see no reason it wouldn’t be similar to shortening Side Effects. Got pics? ---
**Author:** ![kaozmachine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kaozmachine/32/648040_2.png) [@kaozmachine](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kaozmachine)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/3 "2026-05-21T11:49:05Z")
It should work no problem if cut correctly. Have you had to cut and then use threaded rod before? ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/4 "2026-05-21T11:52:52Z")
Stuck at work ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/5 "2026-05-21T11:53:11Z")
I have not, that was the next question lol ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/6 "2026-05-21T11:59:30Z")
The cabal guts I have don’t have the axle loctite into them so I can remove it without issue and swap for a smaller one unlike se. The posts can be a slight protrusion issue on some models for half spec and stuff but could mess with shims to get past that ---
**Author:** ![pyrotechnic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pyrotechnic/32/689058_2.png) [@pyrotechnic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyrotechnic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/7 "2026-05-21T12:31:09Z")
Should be doable ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/8 "2026-05-21T12:46:09Z")
Last question, and thank you everyone. Why does the Deepest State play so phenomenal with a standard C greased bearing, but not near as good on the Cabal guts with a greased standard C. I have no issues doing the mods above and using a half spec C, half spec greased C in the Docpop thing is amazing. Maybe just use thicker pads? ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/9 "2026-05-21T12:50:58Z")
Maybe I need pictures to understand what we are trying to do. I think I’m struggling to grasp the issue. ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/10 "2026-05-21T12:55:49Z")
I can’t really describe it with words proper enough, it’s me, but I will play around with it. I tested a wood unresponsive from Rich with Cabal guts, it absolutely slayed. And trying to figure out a way to be able to recommend how to also get them to play responsive without just recommending grease standard C The Thing I have doesn’t play as good with just a standard C greased for modern responsive, but with a greased half spec it’s unreal. Now imagine that in a wood throw, would be just amazing I think Really wish 3/4 spec C bearing was a thing ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/11 "2026-05-21T13:09:55Z")
Ohh I’ve been talking to Rich about the unresponsive. I’m going to send him a few stem kits from Fd to mess with too ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/12 "2026-05-21T13:12:19Z")
Nice! He really nailed it on his first attempt, has minimal vibe which is basically par for the course for wood unresponsives, and doesn’t detract from play at all. First attempt could easily go production ---
**Author:** ![washyjoshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/washyjoshe/32/612061_2.png) [@washyjoshe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/washyjoshe)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/13 "2026-05-21T13:19:46Z")
Cabal 2 with a greasebucket is a banger. Any greased c bearing would work, but I have played one for a while. FH1 vibes. ---
**Author:** ![pyrotechnic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pyrotechnic/32/689058_2.png) [@pyrotechnic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyrotechnic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/14 "2026-05-21T13:25:28Z")
If this is for a wood unresponsive the solution is to just make the area between the spacer and SE thicker than you would for a full sized bearing ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/15 "2026-05-21T13:30:38Z")
Thank you again. Great info from you all. Looking forward to seeing how everything pans out. Really love wood bearing throws and just don’t see them much which I imagine is on account of a difficulty to get the proper cuts to make the spr fit securely and have minimal vibe I will likely grab a 3/4 spec Ultem c blank and see how that goes too ---
**Author:** ![kaozmachine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kaozmachine/32/648040_2.png) [@kaozmachine](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kaozmachine)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/16 "2026-05-21T13:48:54Z")
Yes, pads stick out a bit on deepest state. ---
**Author:** ![kaozmachine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kaozmachine/32/648040_2.png) [@kaozmachine](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kaozmachine)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/17 "2026-05-21T13:51:32Z")
Do you have spacers? Pay for shipping and ill send you some. (Few bucks for conus) I print em. Needed for yos like deep/er/est where the bearing is recessed a bit, but allows tou to play with normal or half bearings. ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2026, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/18 "2026-05-21T14:00:12Z")
Thank you, I’m actually sending everything back to Rich but should it not play right with steps above I will definitely hit you up, thank you again ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2026, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/19 "2026-05-22T02:23:08Z")
> [@kaozmachine](#): > > It should work no problem if cut correctly. Have you had to cut and then use threaded rod before? Why cut it? Just buy a shorter set screw. ---
**Author:** ![kaozmachine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kaozmachine/32/648040_2.png) [@kaozmachine](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kaozmachine)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2026, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060/20 "2026-05-22T18:10:09Z")
In response to thread title. Grinding and reusing threaded rod can be.. rough. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/has-anyone-shaved-down-a-cabal-gut-axle-and-tried-a-half-spec-c/446060.md?page=2)