# Gyroscopic flop problem
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gyroscopic-flop-problem/11052
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks
**Created:** [February 5, 2010, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gyroscopic-flop-problem/11052 "2010-02-05T09:57:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@drinksprite](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/drinksprite)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2010, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gyroscopic-flop-problem/11052/1 "2010-02-05T09:57:34Z")
For some reason, I can only do 3 spins with the gyroscopic flop before it starts spinning like crazy or dies out. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but Andre Boulay says you can pretty much go as long as you want.
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### Author:  [@AwEsOmEnEsS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AwEsOmEnEsS)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gyroscopic-flop-problem/11052/2 "2010-02-05T13:12:29Z")
all i can say is practice your throw, and keep the strings off the sides.
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### Author:  [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gyroscopic-flop-problem/11052/3 "2010-02-05T15:41:33Z")
The yoyo can spin for a long time (with a good throw) while doing flops as long as you keep the strings off the sides.
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### Author:  [@drinksprite](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/drinksprite)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gyroscopic-flop-problem/11052/4 "2010-02-05T16:16:38Z")
Am I supposed to pull both sides of the string really hard too?
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### Author:  [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gyroscopic-flop-problem/11052/5 "2010-02-05T17:21:26Z")
Don’t pull too hard, but I’m not sure how you could pull one side hard and not the other (little bit of physics there).
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### Author:  [@drinksprite](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/drinksprite)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2010, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gyroscopic-flop-problem/11052/6 "2010-02-06T08:19:06Z")
Haha yea. I got it working now 8)
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### Author:  [@FiveIronBrian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FiveIronBrian)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gyroscopic-flop-problem/11052/7 "2010-02-06T22:11:06Z")
Something worth noting is that KonKave bearings don’t work as well on this trick, because with all the string centered, you don’t get as much torque on the axle and it won’t “flop” as fast as it would if the bearing wasn’t concave. At least that’s my experience.
Of course, no one in this post mentioned anything about a KonKave bearing. Maybe I just like to hear myself talk (or type).
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### Author:  [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gyroscopic-flop-problem/11052/8 "2010-02-06T22:29:13Z")
Yeah we forgot to mention that part, which is correct. :wink: