# grind machine vs legacy **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 2, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938 "2009-08-02T19:02:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![legacy924](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@legacy924](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/legacy924)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/1 "2009-08-02T19:02:13Z")
which yoyo you think is better grind machine or legacy ---
**Author:** ![yoyoproyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoproyo/32/88_2.png) [@yoyoproyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoproyo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/2 "2009-08-02T19:05:53Z")
i personaly like the pmg but alot of people like the leagcy too. ---
**Author:** ![Lacko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lacko/32/58_2.png) [@Lacko](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lacko)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/3 "2009-08-02T19:27:52Z")
No yoyo is better than the other but I would say PGM. Amazing price + Amazing performance. Also Die nasty will be like PGM but without hubstacks and for only about 15! ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/4 "2009-08-02T19:29:34Z")
These are two totally different yoyo’s so… I do like the Legacy better BUT the PGM is amazing too! ---
**Author:** ![electricyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/electricyo/32/139_2.png) [@electricyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/electricyo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/5 "2009-08-02T19:30:38Z")
> [@Lacko](#): > > No yoyo is better than the other but I would say PGM. Amazing price + Amazing performance. Also Die nasty will be like PGM but without hubstacks and for only about 15! I agree, the PGM is definatly better value for money and the hubstacks open up another style of play completely. PGM definatly for me, but others may feel different… ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/6 "2009-08-02T19:43:39Z")
legacy ---
**Author:** ![kobansora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kobansora/32/66_2.png) [@kobansora](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kobansora)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/7 "2009-08-02T22:33:44Z")
PGM is significantly lighter than the Legacy though… Both are awesome, but if you want a lighter yoyo you should get the PGM. I like the Legacy, but the PGM wins me over with its lightness. ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/8 "2009-08-02T23:08:46Z")
IMO, the Legacy kills the PGM. But only in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Dv888](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dv888/32/215_2.png) [@Dv888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dv888)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/9 "2009-08-02T23:14:28Z")
PGM \> legacy ---
**Author:** ![daPhantom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/daphantom/32/196_2.png) [@daPhantom](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/daPhantom)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/10 "2009-08-02T23:48:01Z")
Simple, do you want a heavy yoyo or a light yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![DYonch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@DYonch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DYonch)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/11 "2009-08-03T00:06:26Z")
To anyone who has only tried the Stacked PGM YOU"VE GOT TO TRY THE UNSTACKED VERSION!!! I would probably agree that the Legacy is better than the Stacked PGM, but the Unstacked PGM is my favorite throw at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Gizzyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gizzyo/32/191_2.png) [@Gizzyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gizzyo)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/12 "2009-08-03T01:50:46Z")
PGM! ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/13 "2009-08-03T02:39:38Z")
I haven’t tried a Legacy, so PGM v2 for me. Others may feel different. ---
**Author:** ![EvanB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@EvanB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EvanB)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/14 "2009-08-03T02:41:53Z")
> [@DYonch](#): > > To anyone who has only tried the Stacked PGM > > YOU"VE GOT TO TRY THE UNSTACKED VERSION!!! > > I would probably agree that the Legacy is better than the Stacked PGM, but the Unstacked PGM is my favorite throw at the moment. Agreed 110%. ---
**Author:** ![BattleToads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BattleToads](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BattleToads)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/15 "2009-08-03T03:04:24Z")
What really turns me off with the PGM is the shape. It looks like a big, spinning square. Especially with the hubstacks, it just looks absolutely unappealing in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![DYonch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@DYonch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DYonch)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/16 "2009-08-03T03:48:44Z")
> [@BattleToads](#): > > What really turns me off with the PGM is the shape. It looks like a big, spinning square. Especially with the hubstacks, it just looks absolutely unappealing in my opinion. Big? Square? Trust me, if you play with one you’ll love it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/17 "2009-08-03T03:53:15Z")
I actually thought the same thing the first time I saw it. Then I got one. and then another. Great yoyo’s. ---
**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/18 "2009-08-03T08:13:04Z")
I prefer the PGM with Weight rings. Imo, the PGM feels solid, while the Legacy has a hollow feeling, not exactly, but an indescribabal feeling that I don’t like when its on the string. ---
**Author:** ![theyoyoempire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoempire/32/254_2.png) [@theyoyoempire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theyoyoempire)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/19 "2009-08-03T14:39:29Z")
Oh boy! The never-ending battle between the PGM, and the Legacy. Preference. I like the Legacy better. ---
**Author:** ![mattsk8nike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattsk8nike/32/213_2.png) [@mattsk8nike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mattsk8nike)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938/20 "2009-08-03T16:54:36Z")
PGM without stacks and weight rings = AWESOME 5A [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-legacy/4938.md?page=2)