# Grind machine vs hubstack( afterglow)

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-hubstack-afterglow/65997>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-hubstack-afterglow/65997 "2014-05-06T18:48:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![sallas116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@sallas116](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sallas116)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-hubstack-afterglow/65997/1 "2014-05-06T18:48:40Z")

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How well do these play and which is better?

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**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-hubstack-afterglow/65997/2 "2014-05-06T19:11:33Z")

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Take it you’re choosing for the hubstacks

Would take the magicyoyo n9/T9/T10 over either of them.

Otherwise the Hubstack is a better shape but too light and the grind machine is an outdated shape with high walls. Would probly take the hubstack personally.

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**Author:** ![yoyo\_yizzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9de053/32.png) [@yoyo\_yizzo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo_yizzo)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-hubstack-afterglow/65997/3 "2014-05-06T19:26:41Z")

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Never used grind machine  
I have hubstack afterglow  
it is an awesome yo for its price  
but I tend to have to keep tightening the axle  
it causes myn to vibe n slow down  
other than that  
It is a good throw

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**Author:** ![sallas116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@sallas116](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sallas116)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-hubstack-afterglow/65997/4 "2014-05-06T19:55:57Z")

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Ok. Thanks

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**Author:** ![sallas116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@sallas116](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sallas116)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-vs-hubstack-afterglow/65997/5 "2014-05-06T20:04:59Z")

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How does the n9 play. And whats the spin time
