# Grind Machine or Protostar? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [December 26, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080 "2011-12-26T13:47:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gaara4sand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@gaara4sand](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gaara4sand)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/1 "2011-12-26T13:47:39Z")
which one is better? ---
**Author:** ![Rika-chan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rika-chan/32/767_2.png) [@Rika-chan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rika-chan)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/2 "2011-12-26T14:02:02Z")
Neither. ---
**Author:** ![gaara4sand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@gaara4sand](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gaara4sand)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/3 "2011-12-26T14:08:24Z")
> [@CarlG](#): > > Neither. which one would you get? ---
**Author:** ![Rika-chan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rika-chan/32/767_2.png) [@Rika-chan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rika-chan)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/4 "2011-12-26T14:11:24Z")
> [@gaara4sand](#): > > > [@CarlG](#): > > > > Neither. > > which one would you get? Protostar. ---
**Author:** ![Reddsigma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reddsigma/32/759_2.png) [@Reddsigma](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reddsigma)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/5 "2011-12-26T15:18:11Z")
> [@gaara4sand](#): > > which one is better? If you like to grind or are interested in hubstack play, the Grind Machine is the only option. The protostar is a heavier throw that can’t grind at all. Aside from this, both are very capable string trick performers. ---
**Author:** ![ledbetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@ledbetter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ledbetter)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/6 "2011-12-26T16:15:32Z")
Both are good, it’s mainly preference. My preference is the Protostar because I like the shape and the catch zone works for me about as well as any yoyo I have. I’m still a sloppy player so the gap on the Protostar is a plus for me as well. ---
**Author:** ![bigkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@bigkat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bigkat)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/7 "2011-12-26T17:29:56Z")
Protostar, unless you really, really, really need hubstacks for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/8 "2011-12-26T17:32:39Z")
I have both. The PGM was bought to have a hubstack example, and for that, it serves it’s purpose quite well. But, it’s also a decent player. Given a choice between the Protostar and the PGM, I’d take the Protostar. For me it’s a better fit. No regrets about having both. ---
**Author:** ![thrower121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b4bc9f/32.png) [@thrower121](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/thrower121)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/9 "2011-12-26T17:55:52Z")
Chaser ---
**Author:** ![MrSquirrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrsquirrel/32/1008_2.png) [@MrSquirrel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrSquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/10 "2011-12-26T21:16:01Z")
> [@maxn93](#): > > skip both of them and buy the ilyy trvth everyone says that but you cant find them anywhere except MAYBE the bst ---
**Author:** ![reezyrice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@reezyrice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/reezyrice)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/grind-machine-or-protostar/33080/11 "2011-12-27T09:12:41Z")
Go for the protostar! There’s a reason behind its hype.