# great for uyour first unresponsive yoyo cheap too **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [May 7, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/great-for-uyour-first-unresponsive-yoyo-cheap-too/14170 "2010-05-07T18:04:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![saintsfan02](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saintsfan02/32/495_2.png) [@saintsfan02](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/saintsfan02)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/great-for-uyour-first-unresponsive-yoyo-cheap-too/14170/1 "2010-05-07T18:04:19Z")
if you are ready for a really unresponsive yoyo get the yyj speed maker and some red shims oh my gosh i think its close to as good as the dark agic not even kidding. sleeps longer and is cheaper get the speedmaker ---
**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/great-for-uyour-first-unresponsive-yoyo-cheap-too/14170/2 "2010-05-12T15:53:18Z")
The Legacy feels like a brick whereas the Speed Maker is lighter. It all comes down to preference once again. ---
**Author:** ![davidlaw543](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@davidlaw543](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/davidlaw543)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/great-for-uyour-first-unresponsive-yoyo-cheap-too/14170/3 "2010-09-19T01:02:14Z")
i know this post is old but if the caps are removed is it good for IRG’S? ---
**Author:** ![Mi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mi1/32/626_2.png) [@Mi1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mi1)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/great-for-uyour-first-unresponsive-yoyo-cheap-too/14170/4 "2010-09-19T01:48:45Z")
Holy necro batman. I would say that no plastic is good for IRGs but it all depends on how good you are I suppose. You could have made your own thread. ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/great-for-uyour-first-unresponsive-yoyo-cheap-too/14170/5 "2010-09-19T12:51:49Z")
The legacy with caps off is not very good for irgs ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/great-for-uyour-first-unresponsive-yoyo-cheap-too/14170/6 "2010-09-19T13:16:24Z")
> [@Mi1](#): > > Holy necro batman. I would say that no plastic is good for IRGs but it all depends on how good you are I suppose. You could have made your own thread. This. Plastics aren’t hard to IRG with if you know what to do. Heck, Andre does IRGs with his Legacy with the caps on. ---
**Author:** ![zippo074](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zippo074/32/572_2.png) [@zippo074](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zippo074)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/great-for-uyour-first-unresponsive-yoyo-cheap-too/14170/7 "2010-09-20T23:42:53Z")
> [@Mi1](#): > > Holy necro batman. I would say that no plastic is good for IRGs but it all depends on how good you are I suppose. You could have made your own thread. Half and half is good at any grinds O.O