# Gordi Morey
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gordi-morey/17995
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [August 16, 2010, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gordi-morey/17995 "2010-08-16T07:02:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@cameron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cameron)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gordi-morey/17995/21 "2010-08-16T19:54:23Z")
> [@d4rqk0n3](#):
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> I’m with Icthus, Steve Brown is the father of 5a, Gordi Morey MAY be an old school player but I highly doubt that Steve Brown undercut Gordi and stole his style of play. As for the “Shoot the Moon with a Pencil” statement, I hope it was a joke, as we all should know that 5a tricks do not incorporate looping tricks like shoot the moon. So even if there was some guy “Shooting the Moon with a Pencil on a slipknot” They weren’t doing 5a, they were doing some bastardized variation of Single Hand Looping which is NOT 5a.
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> Note to others: I am in no way a Steve Brown-Noser (w00t), nor am I easily offended so, keep your flames to yourself. So, for those of you who would flame, thanks for wasting your time. 😃
I’m not saying they invented it. He was telling me how he had a lot of credit for giving him the idea for 5a.
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### Author:  [@d4rqk0n3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d4rqk0n3)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gordi-morey/17995/22 "2010-08-16T19:57:43Z")
Ok, that is understandable, I may have gotten the wrong meaning from the posts 😃 I just figured this was another hater thread not unlike the many others suddenly popping up this past week.
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### Author:  [@cameron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cameron)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gordi-morey/17995/23 "2010-08-16T20:19:33Z")
> [@d4rqk0n3](#):
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> Ok, that is understandable, I may have gotten the wrong meaning from the posts 😃 I just figured this was another hater thread not unlike the many others suddenly popping up this past week.
Me, hating on Steve Brown? LOL
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### Author:  [@Elephark](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elephark)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gordi-morey/17995/24 "2010-08-16T23:43:31Z")
[quote=“d4rqk0n3,post:20,topic:17995”]
The words of Steve Brown, in response to [this video](http://elephark.com/yovids/0afreegen.mp4):
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> Yeah. There was a fair bit of messing around with that back in 1999/2000. I actually came up with a handful of looping 5A tricks that were intended to be two-handed tricks, but the problem is that looping while holding a counterweight is just way too unstable for it to ever be more than a novelty. Like 9A…funny, kinda nifty to yo-yo players, but ultimately it’s probably never going to be anything more than a funny video trick.
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> Freegens out of Shoot The Moons look amazing though.
…and in response to a question regarding the inventor of freegens:
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> Unless someone else was doing them in April 1999, I’m pretty sure it was me.
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> I didn’t really do anything with them until a fair bit later, as the yo-yos I was using back then were way too unstable, and I didn’t really understand the mechanics of what I was doing until much later. The first freegen was just a breakaway, freegen, swing to trapeze. Then the Shoot The Moon freegen, then I started working on looping freegens because I thought I could talk Matt Harlow into putting some into one of his 2A routines (Hey, if Matt Harlow does then maybe I can actually get people playing with this freehand thing that no one but me and Neff care about! Yeah, that’ll work!) but he didn’t give much of a rip about them.
[Source](http://www.yoyonation.com/talk/index.php/topic,74979.20.html)
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### Author:  [@d4rqk0n3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d4rqk0n3)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gordi-morey/17995/25 "2010-08-17T01:57:17Z")
Fair Enough, I stand corrected. Thank You Elephark!! 😃
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