# Gnarwhal or DIETZ **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [September 13, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131 "2013-09-13T04:18:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.wIerdHObBies31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mr.wierdhobbies31/32/1421_2.png) [@Mr.wIerdHObBies31](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mr.wIerdHObBies31)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/1 "2013-09-13T04:18:39Z")
I love the play styles of my summit and puffin and want a cool throw. I like undersized (50-52 mm) and I like spin time. I do a lot of whips so I need an easy catch zone. They’re the same width so I’m not worried about space. I just would like to know how they stack up cuz I want both and can’t decide. I’m a semi floaty semi stable guy so nothing to extreme in terms if floatiness or stability. Hope you guys can help. Thanks, Thomas. ---
**Author:** ![mordo613](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mordo613/32/1373_2.png) [@mordo613](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mordo613)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/2 "2013-09-13T04:59:26Z")
I would say the GNARWHAL fits the bill a little better for you. It feels like a full sized yoyo shrunk down to GNARWHAL size and has a mixture or stability and floatiness. But the dietz on the other hand feels like an undersized yoyo and it was made with that in mind which ultimately results in a drop less spin time but is more speedy and agile. As always it’s what you prefer… Hope that helped ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/3 "2013-09-13T05:36:30Z")
Go for an angle. It’s the best undersized throw and I didn’t think either of those were that excellent. The Dietz is faster but I much prefer the shape of the gnarwhal and the feel of it on the string ---
**Author:** ![Mr.wIerdHObBies31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mr.wierdhobbies31/32/1421_2.png) [@Mr.wIerdHObBies31](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mr.wIerdHObBies31)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/4 "2013-09-13T12:44:41Z")
> [@sparhawk](#): > > Go for an angle. It’s the best undersized throw and I didn’t think either of those were that excellent. The Dietz is faster but I much prefer the shape of the gnarwhal and the feel of it on the string > [@mordo613](#): > > I would say the GNARWHAL fits the bill a little better for you. It feels like a full sized yoyo shrunk down to GNARWHAL size and has a mixture or stability and floatiness. But the dietz on the other hand feels like an undersized yoyo and it was made with that in mind which ultimately results in a drop less spin time but is more speedy and agile. As always it’s what you prefer… > > Hope that helped thanks to both of you. The angle is just a bit out of my price range being that I want string and response and a bearing with my next order. So you guys are voting the gnarwhal currently? ---
**Author:** ![YoCyanightYo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/77aa72/32.png) [@YoCyanightYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoCyanightYo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/5 "2013-09-13T13:25:02Z")
Yeah I’d say the gnarwhal as well. I don’t really like the shape of the dietz in my hand. ---
**Author:** ![N8dogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@N8dogg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/N8dogg)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/6 "2013-09-13T14:24:12Z")
If those are your two options I vote Gnarwahl as well. The Dietz is/was my least favorite throw from One Drop. I don’t have the largest hands and generally prefer mid-to-undersized throws, but I didn’t enjoy the Dietz. Mine was not very stable and truthfully I just didn’t think it was very fun. The Gnarwahl, on the other hand, really does play like a shrunken Sasquatch, which it should since it pretty much is one. It’s a solid, all around performer. I’m going to go pick mine up right now, as a matter of fact! ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/7 "2013-09-13T14:29:02Z")
Against my better judgment since I haven’t played a Dietz to compare, I’m going to mention that I don’t think the Gnarwhal is anything special. I don’t know if the Dietz is any “better” (all things being relative! Clearly people who have tried both prefer the Gnarwhal!), but I’ve thrown small yoyos which I much prefer. Not all are currently available (SPYY Supra, for example), but the Gnarwhal isn’t worth my money. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/8 "2013-09-13T18:38:58Z")
take a look at the minute or dibase 2 as well since those are rather cheap and undersized Also the kestrel is undersized but I have no idea what to think of it ---
**Author:** ![theTopo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thetopo/32/1065_2.png) [@theTopo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theTopo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/9 "2013-09-13T18:56:45Z")
I much prefer the Dietz. I find it really stable for an undersized. It’s not especially floaty, but it certainly doesn’t feel like a rock on a string. Only played a Gnarwhal briefly and it didn’t do too much for me. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/10 "2013-09-14T02:25:59Z")
Based on your preferences, you’d probablylike the gnarwhal better, but I havent tried one myself… i have tried a diez however, and i LOVE it, awesome undersized, really fits my preferences… it’s pretty stable, and is really fast, which I love… But it’s all preferences, I think you’d like the gnarwhal more, unless you like fast throws, then I would say the dietz. ---
**Author:** ![Logi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/logi/32/7932_2.png) [@Logi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Logi)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/gnarwhal-or-dietz/59131/11 "2013-09-14T03:15:49Z")
The cascade is always good, a little on the floaty side, but not super floaty, and not super undersized.