# Getting started with 2a. **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [December 22, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065 "2010-12-22T01:29:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Slide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slide/32/740_2.png) [@Slide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slide)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/1 "2010-12-22T01:29:48Z")
Well I’m going to start 2a after Christmas and have a couple of questions: What is a good beginner looper? Is the SOS response on the 720 as “bad” as everyone says? How hard would it be to find Loop 900s? Or Sunsets since YYJ discontinued them? As you can probably tell I am considering Sunsets, Loop 720s, and Loop 900s, but don’t let that limit your suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![TheFerret2010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/76d3ee/32.png) [@TheFerret2010](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheFerret2010)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/2 "2010-12-22T01:40:22Z")
Sunset Trajectory’s(if can find) and Yomega Raiders are good for starting. I’m not sure on SOS since I’ve never owned/played with Loop720. Loop900’s are super hard to find as of now, YYF’s Patrick Mitchell (received email earlier today) stated there’s a possible restock on Loop900’s in late January, date not decided just a possibility. ---
**Author:** ![brandoide1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/brandoide1/32/662_2.png) [@brandoide1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/brandoide1)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/3 "2010-12-22T02:18:08Z")
SUNSET TRAJECTORY!! ;D It is a great looping yoyo and it is very cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Domin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@Domin123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Domin123)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/4 "2010-12-22T13:53:08Z")
I would recommend the Sunset Trajectory. > [@Slide](#): > > How hard would it be to find Loop 900s? Or Sunsets since YYJ discontinued them? Since when were they discontinued? Where did you find this out? ---
**Author:** ![Slide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slide/32/740_2.png) [@Slide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slide)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/5 "2010-12-22T15:10:11Z")
I e-mailed Andre about a restock on Sunsets and he said they had been discontinued. ---
**Author:** ![Domin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@Domin123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Domin123)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/6 "2010-12-22T15:16:38Z")
Oh, that is weird. If YoyoJam does that, then it would not have a proper looping yoyo in production… Anyway, in that case, I would recommend the Duncan Speed Beetle. I heard many good reviews on it. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/7 "2010-12-22T15:19:13Z")
Raiders and 720’s are really good loopers. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/8 "2010-12-22T18:33:25Z")
raiders r rlly good ---
**Author:** ![gtyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@gtyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gtyoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/9 "2010-12-22T20:27:46Z")
What about Sunset Trajectory NGX? I also like raider ex’s. ---
**Author:** ![dingo54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/10 "2010-12-22T23:52:31Z")
Well i started looping with sunset nxg and I still loop with sunsets 4 months later. It is great for looping and is very inexpensive to purchase. Here is a link to buy them [http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/80/YYJ-Sunset-Trajectory](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/80/YYJ-Sunset-Trajectory) ---
**Author:** ![yoyomatt2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f19dbf/32.png) [@yoyomatt2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomatt2)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/getting-started-with-2a/22065/11 "2010-12-22T23:57:40Z")
its discontinued cuz of the soon 2 come unleashed loopers, buyt i got dave geigle sunsets ill trade 2 u