# Genesis Plus or 888 **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [March 28, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-plus-or-888/25069 "2011-03-28T22:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mastersage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Mastersage](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mastersage)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-plus-or-888/25069/1 "2011-03-28T22:46:55Z")
Both are in the $90 range, and I am looking to buy one of these. Which is the better option? YoYoFactory Genesis Plus (This is like the Genesis, but it has Hubstacks) or the 888? ---
**Author:** ![dingo54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-plus-or-888/25069/2 "2011-03-28T22:48:32Z")
the genesis(not +). The 888x is actually no that stable and i reccomend genesis over + because stacs give yoyo minor vibe and get boring ---
**Author:** ![skeletonboy333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@skeletonboy333](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skeletonboy333)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-plus-or-888/25069/3 "2011-03-28T23:49:09Z")
If you need hubstacks badly, choose genesis. But if you don`t have to hubstacks, just the pure genesis OR you can just make another thread. ---
**Author:** ![jtman562](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jtman562/32/285_2.png) [@jtman562](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jtman562)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-plus-or-888/25069/4 "2011-03-29T00:13:09Z")
The 888 has a rounded shape, it’s undersized, and the smoothest YoyoFactory I’ve played. The Genesis is big, has a drastic H shape, and is very stable. Your choice.