# Genesis or catalyst? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [July 8, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220 "2013-07-08T18:33:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Yoyo\_Kangaroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@Yoyo\_Kangaroo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo_Kangaroo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220/1 "2013-07-08T18:33:26Z")
So, without price being an issue, which is the better yoyo? Also, the Genesis has a few pinpricks, but it still plays good so I don’t care. My order of yoyo preference: Beat capped Raptor Beat DV888 Beat uncapped Raptor Alpha Crash Token I’m currently leaning towards the Fenesis… Hmm… ---
**Author:** ![yoyo143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo143/32/1384_2.png) [@yoyo143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo143)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220/2 "2013-07-08T18:37:56Z")
I haven’t tried the genesis, but really want to. I actually didn’t like it that much… The genesis has more rim weight, as you can see in pics, its like “beefy” or something. But the catalyst’s shapes seems lke a shape many people would like. I might go with the genesis, only because soooo many people loved it. But the catalyst js probably a better deal… ---
**Author:** ![Big\_cat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/big_cat/32/877_2.png) [@Big\_cat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_cat)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220/3 "2013-07-08T18:42:15Z")
The Genesis gets my vote, unless you are concerned about getting a Catalyst, seeing as they’re discontinuing them. The Genesis has massive rims for long spin times, and is extremely stable. It’s a 5A beast as well, and is, in my opinion, on of the best yoyo YYF has ever made. ---
**Author:** ![Noonar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/noonar/32/1244_2.png) [@Noonar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Noonar)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220/4 "2013-07-08T18:53:07Z")
Genesis = More stable and slower Catalyst = Lighter, faster, floatier. ---
**Author:** ![LeftyLink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftylink/32/1321_2.png) [@LeftyLink](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyLink)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220/5 "2013-07-08T18:54:30Z")
Doesn’t the Catalyst’s finish allow for better grinds? ---
**Author:** ![Noonar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/noonar/32/1244_2.png) [@Noonar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Noonar)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220/6 "2013-07-08T18:55:38Z")
> [@LeftyLink](#): > > Doesn’t the Catalyst’s finish allow for better grinds? Yes, the new Genesis have glossy finishes. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo\_nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9fc29f/32.png) [@Yoyo\_nerd](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo_nerd)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220/7 "2013-07-08T19:10:25Z")
I have both the catalyst is a grinding machine and great for horizontal play while the genesis has a great catch zone you can put a ton of wraps in it and it won’t die ---
**Author:** ![nardcopter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nardcopter/32/1335_2.png) [@nardcopter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nardcopter)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220/8 "2013-07-08T19:16:45Z")
If you like technical play, Genesis. If you like smoother, slack and whip type play, Catalyst. My vote goes to the Catalyst, I have tried both (and own a genesis if you want to buy…) ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo\_Kangaroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@Yoyo\_Kangaroo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo_Kangaroo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220/9 "2013-07-08T22:11:50Z")
It’s a Genesis+, actually. I forget what Catalyst it so. ---
**Author:** ![Brian\_Long](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Brian\_Long](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Brian_Long)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/genesis-or-catalyst/56220/10 "2013-07-08T22:21:22Z")
Genesis