# General Yoyo Thoughts

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [August 20, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204 "2019-08-20T20:58:39Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1949 "2021-06-15T20:03:01Z")

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So reporting back, to me the Panorama with flat caps actually does play very surprisingly close to a YWET, definitely recommend giving it a shot if you have one and a pair of flat caps.

> [@Upmanyu](#):
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> the brand has a certain cool factor noone can properly explain.

I really like @edhaponik’s take on it, below are the blog posts they linked so you don’t have to click through:

> [@AntiYo History](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/antiyo-history/299669/16):
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> They had a certain cache at a time when metal yoyo design was just developing and things looked either sterile or… corny. I wrote a couple blog posts about their stuff. Kiya and Sonny had a special gift of making it feel COOL. I can’t believe we’re in a place where their place in the community is not common knowledge.

> **[yo-yo #99: anti-yo fluchs](http://kinopah.blogspot.com/2014/01/yo-yo-99-anti-yo-fluchs.html)**
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> if you could reach deep into your brain, among all of the thousands of words you've collected during your life as a verbal, literate (i'...

> **[yo-yo #51: anti-yo eetzilla](http://kinopah.blogspot.com/2009/08/yo-yo-51-anti-yo-eetzilla.html)**
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> 51 is not actually prime (3x17). don't front, i know you were thinking it was. i finally arrive at an anti-yo, which has made several of ...

> [@Upmanyu](#):
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> Are they hard to manufacture? I wanna see more of these.

That’s also part of it, hardcoat anodizing (Type-III anodizing) grows on the aluminum thicker (which gives it its resiliency) than Type-II (“regular”, the stuff we know and love) so it’s more likely to introduce vibe. It’s also a different process and not all shops are set up to do it since it requires keeping the parts at a cooler temperature and is just generally a more expensive process. I reached out to Gruntbull to see if they could do it, they said they could but that they wouldn’t bother unless the order was for a thousand dollars or more because it just wasn’t worth their time and effort. [This site has a good overview of the differences](https://www.omwcorp.com/understanding-and-specifying-anodizing-2/)

(also if you ever decide you want to get rid of your hardcoat YWET @Upmanyu hit me up and i’ll make it worth your while :wink: )

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