# General Yoyo Thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 20, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204 "2019-08-20T20:58:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1527 "2020-06-17T20:06:16Z")
This. ---
**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1528 "2020-06-17T20:58:22Z")
> [@d34dj3d](#): > > There wasn’t even a really good trick book available until the yonomicon was published. God Bless Bride. Quantum Yo theory was way ahead of its time. ---
**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1529 "2020-06-17T21:00:23Z")
> [@lytelvin](#): > > you throw a Bapezilla vs Mecha-Bapezilla, although they are meant to be 1:1, it is just different. This is a true statement. ---
**Author:** ![Abide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abide/32/63541_2.png) [@Abide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Abide)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1530 "2020-06-18T12:28:24Z")
In addition to the denim suggestions, you could try some rough leather. I bought a DV888 last year (sorry @codinghorror) - and it was eating strings withing minutes - I could feel the roughness just outside the response pad area. Tried denim, tried leather - in the end I used some very fine grit wet & dry sand paper (2500 or 3000 I think) and this did the job. Didn’t affect the look/finish at all but it was noticeably smoother around the response area afterwards. Bear in mind though - it’s a matte black DV888 with none of the pretty ano you have on the Pyro, so if you do try the sand paper be careful, wouldn’t want to spoil the looks of such a pretty throw! ---
**Author:** ![Abide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abide/32/63541_2.png) [@Abide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Abide)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1531 "2020-06-18T13:14:50Z")
Sorry - I know I’m replying to an old post, so you’ve probably sorted this by now… There are some very reasonably priced hybrid ceramic concave bearings (and full hybrid bearings) available from a guy in Texas who recently started up his own yoyo company. I really like hybrid ceramics - I can PM you his website if you’d like. ---
**Author:** ![100FatYoyoDads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/100fatyoyodads/32/198123_2.png) [@100FatYoyoDads](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/100FatYoyoDads)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1532 "2020-06-18T13:55:05Z")
how hard Is under water basket weaving? it looks really cool and I want to try and learn it. ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1533 "2020-06-18T13:55:40Z")
no matter the skill level required, just try. ---
**Author:** ![JWaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jwaugh/32/42366_2.png) [@JWaugh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JWaugh)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1534 "2020-06-18T14:14:11Z")
Reverse hook uses less string ---
**Author:** ![JSERR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jserr/32/186876_2.png) [@JSERR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JSERR)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1535 "2020-06-18T15:18:17Z")
I actually haven’t sorted my problem. I just play musical bearings haha. But I’m always up for ceramic or hybrids! PM away! ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1536 "2020-06-19T00:23:26Z")
> [@Abide](#): > > I bought a DV888 last year You are dead to me. DEAD TO ME ☠ ---
**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1537 "2020-06-19T01:21:42Z")
Then I’m IN good company. ---
**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1538 "2020-06-19T01:23:24Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > You are dead to me. DEAD TO ME ☠ Wow, I feel the same way!!! I told you where I live… ---
**Author:** ![Abide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abide/32/63541_2.png) [@Abide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Abide)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1539 "2020-06-19T01:44:54Z")
You’ll be very disappointed to hear that I’ve bought 2 more since… One was a B-Grade, so not too much of an offence 😜 The other was a Galaxy on sale - I’m a sucker for Galaxy colourways, so couldn’t resist 😁 Tbh I do agree with you about its shortcomings, especially the way it’s set up responsive out of the box - those thick white pads make it so grabby I think it’s downright dangerous, especially considering its solidity and relatively high weight - a surefire recipe for some expensive dental work! Bizarrely, the B-Grade was actually the best out of the box as it came already set up unresponsive with thin pads and the longer axle - all I did was switch out the flat bearing for a concave and it was good to go. I do think it has _some_ redeeming features - the size and shape make it pocket friendly, and the bomb-proof construction with a relatively long axle mean I don’t mind letting others try it out - there’s not much they can really do to damage it. Price is an issue though - if it came with a wide bearing, longer axle and thinner pads to convert it to unresponsive the value would be OK. But buying those things separately pushes the price to about $40 which is just too much. There are so many better throws in that price range it’s hard to recommend on value. I still like mine though 😅 ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1540 "2020-06-21T03:27:19Z")
So this just happened. Something feels very weird about selling these to him :joy: I almost feel like I’m obligated to give it to him for free or at least give him a discount or something lol ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/8/2/282ddb7ca4607a197b13fe39ae442a37504f1643.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1541 "2020-06-21T13:00:20Z")
LOL Alex is awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Travelingyoyokid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/travelingyoyokid/32/62091_2.png) [@Travelingyoyokid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Travelingyoyokid)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1542 "2020-06-21T13:48:59Z")
He is a very nice guy! ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1543 "2020-06-27T01:00:22Z")
Here is version two of the Freehand hubcap I designed and printed. I like this better than version one, but matching the very yellow-y gold of the Duncan rings would require painting gold on top of yellow, I think. Just spray painting with gold alone doesn’t quite cut it, IMO. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/2/b/82b5ad26cb3af0b004137af4a4c8556cab8c52f3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1544 "2020-06-27T01:08:31Z")
> [@Abide](#): > > I do think it has _some_ redeeming features - the size and shape make it pocket friendly, and the bomb-proof construction with a relatively long axle mean I don’t mind letting others try it out - there’s not much they can really do to damage it. My DV888 was the one throw I brought to college freshman year because I _knew_ someone would ask me to walk the dog while I’m outside. The rims aren’t in great shape but it keeps on trucking. Of course, mine came unresponsive out of the box, this was before they had it toy safety certified and started selling it in retail toy stores. I agree w/ you, selling it as responsive is dangerous and I really don’t get why YYF went that route. > [@AngryGumball](#): > > Oh Pyro 66…why do you like to eat strings? Like others have said, it’s the laser engraving. Original Pyro’s had the same issue. ---
**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1545 "2020-06-27T02:29:23Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/5/c/35ceb51a1de3216d0d47c221101004c062215341.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1546 "2020-06-28T02:01:24Z")
What’s an “ab” trick/element? I’ve heard it mentioned several times while watching the Scales Collective vids and still haven’t figured out what it is. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204.md?page=76) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204.md?page=78)