# General Yoyo Thoughts

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [August 20, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204 "2019-08-20T20:58:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1266 "2020-03-31T04:45:11Z")

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I _/luv_ 💚/🧡 half-swaps 🙂

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1267 "2020-03-31T05:15:12Z")

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> [@pep65](#):
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> But does a half spec C spin less freely than a full size? …no matter what i did the half specs, still don’t spin as freely as the full.  
> Any ideas ? opinions ?

My _opinion_ is that a full size and half spec bearing will spin the same if prepared the same. When you say a half spec doesn’t spin as well as a full size, how are you determining this? By putting it in a yoyo or a free spin type of test of just the bearing? If in a yoyo it will obviously appear to not spin as well as a full size due to the narrower gap and the string being closer to the response pads, thus slowing the yoyo more than if you had a full size C bearing. So unless you test the bearing itself, you cannot reliably say they don’t spin as well as a full size. It’s really the application environment that is affecting the perceived spin.

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**Author:** ![AngryGumball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/angrygumball/32/683872_2.png) [@AngryGumball](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AngryGumball)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1268 "2020-03-31T06:21:09Z")

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![yoyo collection-01](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/f/1/0f1655eaee2a7f1d81543b7ed8104801dcf88027.jpeg)  
More jojos as I continue to mess around with Illustrator. They’re all 50mm/40mm/2010-sized yoyos, one of them is ripped straight from my Y-factor minus the grooves 🙂

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**Author:** ![pep65](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pep65/32/54510_2.png) [@pep65](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pep65)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1269 "2020-03-31T08:45:56Z")

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Nothing as technical. I put the bearings on the end of a removel tool and used my finger to spin. Full size C spun substantially longer than the half spec.

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**Author:** ![Throwto100](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwto100/32/87184_2.png) [@Throwto100](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Throwto100)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1270 "2020-03-31T15:08:00Z")

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I’ve had yoyos come with dry half spec bearings which are pretty much unresponsive, so I think if zero string contact with the walls occurs, they would spin about the same time as a dry C size bearing

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1271 "2020-03-31T17:27:44Z")

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That’s cool!

Before you know it you’ll be ready for full 3D CGI modeling and rendering!

 ![ironman_yoyo_v02](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/5/8/5581cbdb4774998264d5ead9ff89b72dd17988cd.png)

 ![ironman_yoyo_spinning_v02](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/b/b/cbbe4b29ca1312e2722ebff381fda94c9f79d998.png)

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**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1272 "2020-03-31T18:53:59Z")

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Replay has been in the dye mix for almost a half hour, and hasn’t taken on any black color. what should i do?

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**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1273 "2020-03-31T19:02:37Z")

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Which dye are you using and which instructions are you following to dye the yoyo? It’d help to have a baseline for what process you’re working through.

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**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1274 "2020-03-31T19:09:22Z")

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i watched Dylan’s video on it on YouTube. 2 parts water to 1 part Acetone, and a bit of dye for just a few minutes. Rit Dyemore, and it seemed like he used warm water.

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**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1275 "2020-03-31T19:11:47Z")

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Update: the green caps have darkened a bit, but the rest is not black.

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**Author:** ![Legit\_yoyostrings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/legit_yoyostrings/32/136873_2.png) [@Legit\_yoyostrings](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Legit_yoyostrings)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1276 "2020-03-31T19:12:36Z")

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what is the OG color way of your replay?

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1277 "2020-03-31T19:13:16Z")

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Replay Pro, transparent dark blue body w/ neon green caps.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1278 "2020-03-31T19:14:01Z")

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ok, I don’t know much about dying throws but the dark color might have somthing to do with it

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**Author:** ![Travelingyoyokid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/travelingyoyokid/32/62091_2.png) [@Travelingyoyokid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Travelingyoyokid)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1279 "2020-03-31T19:21:25Z")

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That’s an awesome design!!

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1280 "2020-03-31T19:35:31Z")

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Thanks. I call it the **Avenger Mk. VI** , but I don’t know if that pattern could be anodized accurately.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1281 "2020-03-31T19:47:15Z")

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What kind of plastic is it? The process for dying poly carb plastic differs from Delrin or Celcon.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1282 "2020-03-31T22:13:47Z")

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i checked… Plastic, lmao. i’ll do more research.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1283 "2020-03-31T22:48:36Z")

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You do not need to use acetone, and you especially shouldn’t be boiling it.

See: [Yoyo dyeing discussion thread - #20 by Goog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-dyeing-discussion-thread/313998/20)

For dyemore you do need to heat the dye though, just below boiling (do not add acetone or any other solvent, it’s dangerous)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/GrgqdWvYags/hqdefault.jpg "How to Dye Polyester, Synthetics and Plastic with Rit DyeMore") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrgqdWvYags)

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1284 "2020-03-31T23:14:09Z")

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> [@PCaliyoyos](#):
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> i checked… Plastic, lmao. i’ll do more research.

Delrin and Celcon are “plastic” as is poly carb, and a number of other “plastics.” But they all require different methods. Poly carb uses acetone, some others (delrin, celcon) don’t.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1285 "2020-04-01T00:05:34Z")

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> [@jhb8426](#):
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> Poly carb uses acetone

This is unnecessary with modern synthetic dyes. Acetone is a dangerous solvent and folks shouldn’t be using it for this purpose.

See: [Reddit - Dive into anything](https://www.reddit.com/r/Throwers/comments/9w8zqu/dying_a_yoyo/e9jcxy3/) for a process that goes without acetone and has good results.

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