# General Yoyo Thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 20, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204 "2019-08-20T20:58:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Travelingyoyokid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/travelingyoyokid/32/62091_2.png) [@Travelingyoyokid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Travelingyoyokid)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/842 "2020-01-23T19:07:03Z")
Yeah it is. The response pads are worn out too but… Is the kun much bigger then the mighty flea? ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/843 "2020-01-23T19:15:02Z")
i think it might be a tiny bit bigger, and that’s why it works better lol. ---
**Author:** ![Apple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Apple](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apple)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/844 "2020-01-24T23:16:25Z")
> [@Origin of Side Effects in YoYos?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/origin-of-side-effects-in-yoyos/299460/1): > > Thanks so much for being here @da5id! As you have mentioned in another thread - Side Effects were such an impressive discovery in modern yo-yo. I’m very curious about the development of them… How did it happen? Whose original idea? Was there an ‘Aha’ moment or more of a development over time? And are there earlier iterations of the design or did you knock it out of the park on the first try? I heart Side Effects. Having browsed further I couldn’t tell you the pros and cons of sideffects… ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/845 "2020-01-25T01:14:39Z")
so Mark, the pink Umbra sold out _fast_, is it any good? ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/846 "2020-01-25T01:26:46Z")
The pink one is 2% more awesome than the blue one, but they’re both fantastic, and they play the same. I play both of mine equally, but I think the pink/purple takes better photos. The very idea of a super wide yoyo is really enticing to me, but the Monster/Superwide looked too small (in diameter) with a funky shape, and the Monster Edge didn’t really feel the way I wanted to. So I grabbed that inverse round shape (my fave) and made the Umbra (the actual process was much longer than this) Of course you can try one at yoyoclub next week!!! ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/847 "2020-01-25T02:08:55Z")
> [@MarkD](#): > > Of course you can try one at yoyoclub next week!!! aw yeah! BUT! it depends on whether my brother will drive me. he still hasn’t given me an answer yet. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/848 "2020-01-25T19:46:11Z")
I’ve had a 180 on a lot of my hard stances recently so I thought I’d post them here. I no longer think buying multiples of a yo-yo you like or multiple similar designs is the way to go over a diverse approach that gives new experiences. I no longer have a firm anti nylon stance, trying Airetics made me realize that I’ve just had unfortunate experiences in the past with the material. I’m willing to budge on my stance that more efficient yo-yo designs are inherently more worthwhile than weird or less efficient designs. Yes i will still claim low walls, bigger catch zones and more rim weight are better, because they are objectively better. But the **experience itself** (not the yo-yo) may be better for many people playing with less efficient designs, because they do feel and play differently. I don’t think the market is over saturated necessarily anymore, i think the smaller brands releases are spaced out enough that the people who have a few brands they follow it’s not bad. I do think that it’s going to be harder for bigger brands, mostly YYF to maintain the constant stream of releases they have though, a lot of their low profile releases just go unnoticed amid the other high profile releases from other brands. ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/849 "2020-01-25T20:32:54Z")
Made my first clip video today. Go easy on me guys…I’m a noob! [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/2/7/42799cfd634c29f042a674498d4364616e43e0f0.jpeg "January 2020 Tricks So Far") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvncsDHiKgo) ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/851 "2020-01-26T01:36:30Z")
The thing I personally like the most about Side Effects…is the way they look. I don’t care so much about the tiny differences they may make in the feel of the yo. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/852 "2020-01-26T01:40:40Z")
> [@Apple](#): > > Having browsed further I couldn’t tell you the pros and cons of sideffects… I think da5id’s answer in that reference is the key. It’s primarily a production method to solve a problem they saw in existing yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/853 "2020-01-26T01:43:02Z")
bro! Twitch! that was so cool! glad to see you progressing fast! ---
**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/854 "2020-01-26T02:30:12Z")
two comments -the only issue i saw was the vikings hat (go pats, brady rules!) -dude’s so committed, he has a green extension cord ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/855 "2020-01-26T02:33:16Z")
> [@fatguysnacks247](#): > > dude’s so committed, he has a green extension cord Which leads to a green lamp (true story lmao) > [@fatguysnacks247](#): > > the only issue i saw was the vikings hat haha no worries! The only reason I have the hat is cause my dad’s a fan. I don’t pay any attention to football…in fact I got so sick of people asking me about the vikings when I’m out and about…that I bought a plain green hat! \>.\<’ I don’t know the first thing about the Vikes. ---
**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/856 "2020-01-26T02:35:01Z")
tell the truth, i don’t follow football either… i just like baseball (go sox!). but you have to support the home team, regardless of where you are. ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/857 "2020-01-26T02:35:28Z")
I live in Wyoming…no home team! lol ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/858 "2020-01-26T02:35:54Z")
Broooooooooo Do you bind your breakaway throws from a trapeze mount??? That’s _brutal_ 😨 😨 😨 ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/859 "2020-01-26T02:38:39Z")
lol not on everything. My favorite binds atm are the [Sky Bind](https://youtu.be/YyCb6L8h06g) and [Ghost Bind](https://youtu.be/exDR2XwDrlA). I just do the bind from the trap when I’m being lazy haha ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/860 "2020-01-26T02:46:04Z")
> [@twitch77](#): > > I just do the bind from the trap when I’m being lazy haha You mean 95% of the time you had to bind in this video? lol Sorry sorry. I just had the weirdest reaction from seeing you doing that. It was like watching something putting on shoes and then socks over their shoes. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/861 "2020-01-26T02:48:41Z")
Nah my “local” team is the Bruins. I’m a Habs fan. ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/862 "2020-01-26T02:49:06Z")
lol I didn’t know there was a thing against this bind 😛. I guess the worst (?) thing about it that I can think of is that it’s extremely basic and not at all flashy. It’s super easy though and convenient. And my binds with it are tight, so I can’t complain about that. A lot of these clips are older as well. I’ve been trying to do fancier binds more often (though in truth I do use the trapeze bind a lot still). [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204.md?page=42) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204.md?page=44)