# General Yoyo Thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 20, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204 "2019-08-20T20:58:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/822 "2020-01-18T18:11:04Z")
> [@gcoomans](#): > > Lol at first I only saw the “honk all you want I’m deaf” sticker Same!! :joy: ---
**Author:** ![beeebon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beeebon/32/30672_2.png) [@beeebon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beeebon)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/823 "2020-01-18T18:22:06Z")
> [@beezy](#): > > Now, the older models that only have front wheel suspension are called “hardtails”, and I keep coming across videos of pros riding hardtail MTBs and advocating for how this older tech is more sensitive and gets you in tune with the trail and the bike more. Well, for me that’s the same with organic yoyos. I like the tactility and the feedback. So many things in life are designed for convenience, where the user isn’t supposed to feel stress or discomfort. However, I find there’s a nice sweet spot of sensitivity where the tools, whether a bike or yoyo or whatever, provide some level of comfort and ease, but not so much where you can’t feel terrain/gravity/friction. After all, I’m doing these activities to learn and tune my awareness to different possibilities, and not to be too insulated. But also, to do some work. It’s good to have tools to feel the work, but not too much. Although I’m not into biking I _totally_ get this analogy and completely agree with you! I recently got a Life btw and love it, feels completely and utterly different to my Peak 2 for example. I just don’t get people who say there is no variation with organics. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/824 "2020-01-18T19:09:54Z")
Not long ago I saw a simple piece of advice offered (I think it was by Collin Beckford) to someone who didn’t like how heavy their yoyo felt in play. He suggested that they shorten their string a little bit. The general rule of thumb is that if you want your yoyo to feel lighter, shorten your string, and if you want it to feel heavier, lengthen your string. I had never heard this before and I found it to be an interesting heuristic. So I looked into the physics behind it and I think I understand why it works. A yoyo in motion exerts centrifugal force on your throwing hand, a Newtonian reaction to the centripetal force exerted by the string in opposition to the yoyo’s desire to move in a straight line away from the anchor point of rotation (your finger). We perceive this force as “yoyo weight”. According to the equations, centrifugal force is proportional to the distance from the point of rotation, which in the case of a yoyo is defined by the length of the string. So, the longer the string, the more centrifugal force exerted and vice versa. 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/825 "2020-01-18T20:29:55Z")
As stability and spin times keep increasing I find myself modern responding with a dead yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/826 "2020-01-18T20:34:41Z")
What do you mean by this? ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/827 "2020-01-18T20:41:41Z")
The irony, all these technological advances, and the newest modern responsive tricks are performed with a stalled out dead throw. How less is more is being applied. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/828 "2020-01-18T20:45:14Z")
An interesting observation. ---
**Author:** ![Travelingyoyokid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/travelingyoyokid/32/62091_2.png) [@Travelingyoyokid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Travelingyoyokid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/829 "2020-01-18T20:47:50Z")
That is crazy! Very interesting. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/830 "2020-01-18T21:05:31Z")
> [@eternalmetal](#): > > > I’d say you’re kinda, maybe, sorta a fan of organics? Just a wild guess… :wink: > > Definitely, lol. I know that you view them as a modern day crutch, and while I can see that to a certain point, the performance tradeoff really isnt as bad as you make it out to be. There isnt a single trick I know that I can’t hit on all of my yoyos, performance driven or not. Where I think organics exceed is in their feel and on the catch. Nothing beats doing a combo and catching a nice rounded off organic throw. My feelings exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/831 "2020-01-22T06:34:25Z")
I keep trying wider and wider yo-yos and have yet to be bothered by the width, but anything under 45.5 mm I just don’t have a good time with. Same thing generally with anything under around 54.5mm Even stuff with large catch zones that are narrow don’t work for me, so that’s no really the main factor. And while I have relatively larger hands, so do a lot of other people who like undersize. I also enjoyed smaller stuff more when it was the standard. Now i just don’t feel right using small yo-yos. ---
**Author:** ![Throwto100](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwto100/32/87184_2.png) [@Throwto100](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Throwto100)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/832 "2020-01-22T13:38:10Z")
I’m actually quite into mountain biking, but I use hardtails because full suspension is too darn expensive lol. ---
**Author:** ![beeebon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beeebon/32/30672_2.png) [@beeebon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beeebon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/833 "2020-01-23T09:28:20Z")
I looked at my collection yesterday and realised that I don’t really have any strong preferences when it comes to colour. Sure I would love it if all my yoyos were either solid black or brown but they aren’t and there are various colours in there. I guess I am more interested in the yoyo itself than how it looks. ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/834 "2020-01-23T09:33:25Z")
Unlike me. To me…beauty is only anodization deep. 😛 …I really like how much you appreciate the yos you own though. ---
**Author:** ![Apple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Apple](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apple)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/835 "2020-01-23T16:02:16Z")
Can anyone tell me the pros and cons of a side effect Yoyo? Or is it just some sales gimmick? ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/836 "2020-01-23T16:08:25Z")
Lots of info if you use the search function > [@Origin of Side Effects in YoYos?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/origin-of-side-effects-in-yoyos/299460): > > Thanks so much for being here @da5id! As you have mentioned in another thread - Side Effects were such an impressive discovery in modern yo-yo. I’m very curious about the development of them… How did it happen? Whose original idea? Was there an ‘Aha’ moment or more of a development over time? And are there earlier iterations of the design or did you knock it out of the park on the first try? I heart Side Effects. ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/837 "2020-01-23T17:32:52Z")
@YoYoExpertGarrett any idea when the Brass Kun will be back in stock? ---
**Author:** ![Travelingyoyokid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/travelingyoyokid/32/62091_2.png) [@Travelingyoyokid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Travelingyoyokid)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/838 "2020-01-23T18:06:08Z")
Ooo now you want it.:thinking::thinking: ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/839 "2020-01-23T18:29:42Z")
yes, very much so. ---
**Author:** ![Travelingyoyokid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/travelingyoyokid/32/62091_2.png) [@Travelingyoyokid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Travelingyoyokid)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/840 "2020-01-23T18:44:38Z")
I have a mighty flea, it’s pretty similar. I could bring it in feb. ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/841 "2020-01-23T19:04:41Z")
for sure! Mighty Flea looks fun, but i hear it’s extremely hard to use. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204.md?page=41) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204.md?page=43)