# General Yoyo Thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 20, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204 "2019-08-20T20:58:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/662 "2019-12-03T01:07:15Z")
I can’t quite figure out who the audience is these days for a 70g monometal. ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/663 "2019-12-03T01:16:06Z")
What about a 77g plastic yoyo with LEDs for $150? ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/664 "2019-12-03T01:16:29Z")
where can i find a tutorial? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/665 "2019-12-03T01:20:22Z")
I guess the trade-off there is that you get fancy light effects in return for that 77g weight and the accompanying sacrifice in playability and performance. ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/666 "2019-12-03T01:24:13Z")
Probably very slow tech players who like their tricks around Takeshi speed. ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/667 "2019-12-03T04:14:24Z")
Are you talking about an specific yoyo or company? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/668 "2019-12-03T18:26:34Z")
Well, a specific yoyo did get me wondering, but I’d say the question is meant to be open-ended. I mean, if any company today chooses to make a 70g monometal, what type of players are they targeting it towards? And just how big is that demographic? ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/669 "2019-12-03T20:13:39Z")
Absolutely nobody is playing with 70g monometal yoyos. At least not that I’m aware of. 67g is workable. There’s yoyos around that weight that feel and move nice. But 70? don’t know. Don’t even know any monometals that weight that much that aren’t old or mid-school, besides from the OD Downbeat. ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/670 "2019-12-03T23:32:17Z")
Retic burm is 69 something. But its huge so it still feels super light and floaty. Very unique yoyo ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/671 "2019-12-03T23:37:30Z")
But it’s weight is explained by it’s huge diameter. Designs like that make perfect sense. ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/672 "2019-12-03T23:40:13Z")
This throw is crazy big and heavy, 80mm and 90grams > **[C3yoyodesign](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/c3yoyodesign)** > > C3yoyodesign has made it their mission to deliver some of the highest quality and built for performance yo-yos you can get your hands on. Being based in Hong Kong with an extremely competitive yo-yo culture they know what it takes to empower a... ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/673 "2019-12-03T23:50:48Z")
> [@EOS44](#): > > 67g is workable 67g is preferable to me. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/674 "2019-12-06T02:34:59Z")
Once I’m further removed from the purchase date, I plan on unloading a few yo-yos on the BST. My play time currently is like, 85% Butter, 10% WA, 5% other stuff, usually whatever is new (Marco right now) or normal Shutter. I don’t see the need to keep a bunch of stuff I won’t use and aren’t collection goals. ---
**Author:** ![skitrz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skitrz/32/849_2.png) [@skitrz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skitrz)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/675 "2019-12-06T02:47:05Z")
Basic tricks are like the good vibe ambassadors of yo! I always try to throw in a lot of basic stuff when I notice people are watching. That’s my thought atm. ❄ ☃ ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/676 "2019-12-06T04:48:10Z")
Random yoyo thought for today: 7/10 times I’ve posted a trick on r/Throwers using my beloved teal Protostar, someone always mistakens it for an OD Rally, and sometimes they ask if it has cracks or something like that lol. ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/677 "2019-12-06T17:37:45Z")
Yea, I bet people find the distinct look of the classics cooler than cat’s cradle-like tech or a failed whip. And something like the Eiffel Tower may seem stupid, but it is so flashy that people get really impressed by it. Good call. I decided to throw in a hubstack yoyo with my recent black friday purchase and picked up the Skyline. Everyone has been saying for a while how hubstacks are a gimmick, make the yoyo stupid loud, etc. Ok, maybe the yoyo isn’t one of my quietest, but it doesn’t scream, and if it is a gimmick, it is a gimmick I find to be really damn fun. The classic 888 is quickly becoming a yoyo that I am feeling a thirst for. ---
**Author:** ![French](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/french/32/70748_2.png) [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/678 "2019-12-06T17:44:47Z")
Agree 100% about hubstacks, just pure fun. I have a mutant DNA that is an absolute blast to play ---
**Author:** ![Throwto100](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwto100/32/87184_2.png) [@Throwto100](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Throwto100)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/679 "2019-12-06T18:01:44Z")
The hub on my glow protostar is cracked, but my rally completely destroyed itself with a giant crack. ---
**Author:** ![d34dj3d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d34dj3d/32/105169_2.png) [@d34dj3d](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d34dj3d)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/680 "2019-12-07T21:58:03Z")
> [@French](#): > > I have a mutant DNA that is an absolute blast to play I love hubstacks also. I have an OG DNA, it is a blast, definitely one of my favorite’s from that time, same with the original hubstacked genesis. I feel like the latest DNA and Genesis lose something over those even though they play very well. The new skyline plays very much like my old one and the ti888 plays just like you would expect a really good 888 to play. I’m hoping YYF might still have a few new hubstacked yoyos waiting in the wings. I really want some one drop side effects with hubstack posts on them. I have a set of ultralights I’m going to modify to accept the grind machine posts. The parlay would rock with side effects. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/681 "2019-12-07T22:03:11Z")
Was there ever a time when hubstack tricks were a regular/standard part of the contest repetoire (i.e., the meta)? What caused hubstacks to fall out of favor (i.e., lose popularity)? [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204.md?page=33) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204.md?page=35)