# General Yoyo Thoughts

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [August 20, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204 "2019-08-20T20:58:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/41 "2019-08-22T01:33:52Z")

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I cant make tricks from wrist mount. It feels like such a dead mount to me. Like it looks like there would be a lot to do in it but i just cant avtually do much haha

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**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/42 "2019-08-22T01:35:08Z")

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Same here man 😕 So much untapped potential.

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**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/43 "2019-08-22T02:07:41Z")

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I have one trick that starts from there and thats it. Where i double on and then roll back into a magic drop sorta thing while in the mount and go from there. Thats the best i could do with that mount in the past 2 or 3 years lol

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**Author:** ![JWaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jwaugh/32/42366_2.png) [@JWaugh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JWaugh)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/44 "2019-08-22T02:19:21Z")

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LMAO

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**Author:** ![JWaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jwaugh/32/42366_2.png) [@JWaugh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JWaugh)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/45 "2019-08-22T02:20:33Z")

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Yeah, I feel like original tech can be done in a smaller mount and be better.

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**Author:** ![boywithcap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/boywithcap/32/507_2.png) [@boywithcap](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/boywithcap)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/46 "2019-08-22T04:39:40Z")

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Cool topic, this was/is my today… finally played my Vayder alongside my stargazer 2.

(Full disclosure: midsize is my jam and the stargazer 2 has been my fave throw for a long, long time; never thrown a TiWalker, own a skywalker; been throwing almost daily for over a decade)

Just gonna say that I’m thinking about selling the rest of my collection now, and that’s not an idle comment… look out for my bst lolz

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/47 "2019-08-22T05:40:07Z")

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Today’s thoughts…

1a is hard. How did I get so good at this. I AM good, all these IG folks are just gods idk. Even if someone played everyday for 8 hours I’d be extremely impressed if they were at my level in 6 months. Wait that’s over 1500 hours… how much time have I put into this toy over the years? The amount of time it takes to get good at this is ridiculous. But I guess to be fair probably only 10-20% of my playtime actually went into active practice. Where would I be if 80% had been put into practice :thinking:

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**Author:** ![JWaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jwaugh/32/42366_2.png) [@JWaugh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JWaugh)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/48 "2019-08-22T14:55:03Z")

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I found the speed of my yoyoing is greatly increased through music, so I guess pandora is my life now.

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**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/49 "2019-08-22T15:34:49Z")

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> [@andy569](#):
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> 1a is hard. How did I get so good at this. I AM good, all these IG folks are just gods idk. Even if someone played everyday for 8 hours I’d be extremely impressed if they were at my level in 6 months. Wait that’s over 1500 hours… how much time have I put into this toy over the years? The amount of time it takes to get good at this is ridiculous. But I guess to be fair probably only 10-20% of my playtime actually went into active practice. Where would I be if 80% had been put into practice :thinking:

Yea dude, it’s crazy. Ive been playing for almost a year now and am nowhere even near your level. I feel like im a really bad player until I watch beginner videos and realize how much smoother I am than someone who has only been playing for a couple months. When I first started yoyoing, all I wanted to be able to do was a few basic tricks like Buddha’s Revenge to be able to show off to friends. Double or nothing was actually a trick to me back then, lol. I am now much better than I planned on being, but it isnt enough and I want to get even better.

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**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/50 "2019-08-22T16:12:50Z")

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> [@eternalmetal](#):
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> Ive been playing for almost a year now and am nowhere even near your level. I feel like im a really bad player

haha that’s how I feel…I’ve been at it for 4 or 5 months and I feel like I’m just a super slow learner or something.  
But then when I step back…I realize I’m pulling off some pretty cool stuff TBH. Whips and slacks and hops (eli hops, kwyjibo, working on black hops, etc).  
I wonder if I’ll ever be at a point where I truly think I’m ‘really good’.  
I will say though…that I’ve been having a ton of fun with this hobby. And as I’m working on more difficult tricks (for me)…the more satisfying it’s getting.

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**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/51 "2019-08-22T16:26:46Z")

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Just think back in time to when you had to struggle to throw a clean breakaway and thought trapeze was somewhat tricky to nail. I still feel like I kinda suck, but It takes hundreds of hours by pretty much anyone to get to the point of where I am now, so it’s something at least.

And I just looked up black hops, and it isnt at all what I expected it to be (I was thinking something Eli Hops in a brother mount). I have to learn it, looks fun!

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**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/52 "2019-08-22T16:44:22Z")

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> [@eternalmetal](#):
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> And I just looked up black hops, and it isnt at all what I expected it to be (I was thinking something Eli Hops in a brother mount). I have to learn it, looks fun!

It’s super fun…one of my favorite beginner’ish tricks is rewind…and black hops kinda reminds me of that but on steroids! lol

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**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/53 "2019-08-22T16:59:26Z")

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I haven’t done rewind in a long time, and just tried it out again, and it turns out I suck at it, lol. I use all of those string configurations in one way or another with my tricks, but I dont flow into them like rewind. Guess I gotta practice before learning the black hops. I can do it, but I’m sloppy and mess up sometimes when going into some of the brother mounts. I think I forget the proper finger to wrap around. Going to have to watch a tut.

Edit: actually I’m getting it now I think.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/54 "2019-08-22T17:38:17Z")

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After a year at this I am still pretty bad at it. Progress has slowed to something of a crawl, so while I have a handful of decent tricks under my belt, there’s not enough in my repertoire yet to put together anything resembling a 3-minute “beginner freestyle”, not without repeating every trick I can land at least five or six times along the way.

Much of this has to do with the very limited amount of time I play/practice. I am not addicted to yoyoing so I don’t seek out opportunities to sneak in play time (at work, at home, whatever). I play when the mood strikes me and there is time and space available. Turns out that isn’t all that often, and so naturally my progress is glacial.

But dang if I don’t love these lovely, spinny things anyway…

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/55 "2019-08-22T18:12:05Z")

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> [@zslane](#):
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> there’s not enough in my repertoire yet to put together anything resembling a 3-minute “beginner freestyle”

Well if it’s any consolation, I am going on three years [come February], and _I_ don’t even have enough tricks under my belt to create a 3 minute beginner freestyle… It doesn’t bother me in the slightest either.

Which brings me to my contribution to the actual topic at hand:

It dawned on me the other day, that gyroscopic toys are just absolutely fascinating to me. Yoyos, spintops, frisbees [think about it… gyroscopic force is what makes them behave the way they do in the air… It’s a trip…].

Try doing anything with a yoyo that isn’t spinning, or a top that isn’t spinning, or throwing a frisbee without putting a spin on it. Gyroscopic force is what brings these things to life!!

These things are so intriguing to me! I experience so much genuine fun when playing with gyroscopic toys.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/56 "2019-08-22T18:35:15Z")

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Gyroscopic force is also what keeps you upright on a bicycle when you aren’t doing the “keep my balance” dance while not moving.

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/57 "2019-08-22T18:36:11Z")

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It is! I love riding bikes too! haha

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**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/58 "2019-08-22T18:39:31Z")

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I feel like Humpty-Dumpty’s bigger brother on a bike. \>.\<’

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**Author:** ![c0dy46](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/c0dy46/32/47755_2.png) [@c0dy46](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/c0dy46)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/59 "2019-08-22T19:16:57Z")

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I feel the same way and I’ve been throwing since 1999 haha 😅. For me it’s just hard to find time to learn new things, I probably play a lot more cause I do have a throw on me wherever I go, but any throwing away from home is just having fun playing around and also repeating the tricks I already know a lot. I am a super slow learner so when I want to learn something I have to have some freetime where I can actually focus on what I’m trying to learn.

The good thing about this for me is I rarely forget whatever I’ve learned since there’s so much time in between new tricks, I tend to repeat what I know so much that it’s pretty cemented in muscle memory by the time I try something new.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/60 "2019-08-22T19:37:27Z")

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> [@zslane](#):
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> there’s not enough in my repertoire yet to put together anything resembling a 3-minute “beginner freestyle”

Bro, as Chad said, I’m 3 years into this, and have nowhere near 3 minutes of tricks on me.

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