# General Yoyo Thoughts

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [August 20, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204 "2019-08-20T20:58:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2519 "2024-07-12T09:41:58Z")

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Genius idea

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**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2520 "2024-07-12T14:22:10Z")

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I agree yoyo is in many ways comparable to martial arts. whatever tricks you throw on auto pilot are like a kata.

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**Author:** ![Hungrymushroom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hungrymushroom/32/259613_2.png) [@Hungrymushroom](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hungrymushroom)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2521 "2024-07-12T14:43:41Z")

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I just started practicing a bit with my eyes closed, I can do my front style combo all day no problem with my eyes closed, it’s kinda fun lol

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**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2522 "2024-07-12T15:12:48Z")

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It’s great practice really. Really nails it in to the old muscle memory. I’ve liked throwing in the dark. It’s a little different… you can’t open your eyes and see what’s going on.

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**Author:** ![Hungrymushroom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hungrymushroom/32/259613_2.png) [@Hungrymushroom](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hungrymushroom)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2523 "2024-07-12T15:16:02Z")

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I’ll have to try the dark next :+1:

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**Author:** ![Fancy-0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fancy-0/32/282201_2.png) [@Fancy-0](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Fancy-0)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2524 "2024-07-12T15:36:52Z")

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Do recommend. I always have a yo-yo in my pocket. When I walk through a dark room I give a couple throws. It’s a good time when you hit the whole combo.

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**Author:** ![suspense](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/suspense/32/178499_2.png) [@suspense](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/suspense)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2525 "2024-07-14T06:02:54Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/7/0/770c92ca459aa4ab59d5d4892a812bb5bf17ce8a.gif)

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**Author:** ![skeevs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skeevs/32/243501_2.png) [@skeevs](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skeevs)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2526 "2024-07-14T07:28:41Z")

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![1000027877](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/b/0/fb02090a51be3fbea670c654592357205bd18093.jpeg)

Couldn’t decide which bar of chocolate I wanted until I saw this.

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**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2527 "2024-07-14T10:55:51Z")

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You should melt that down and make a Dairycote Top Deck…🦗🦗🦗

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2528 "2024-07-21T02:44:14Z")

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I would love to see more players stall and bust out some Varials. Imagine a pro at a major competition mid-combo just hits everyone with a 720 Varial, or a triple Kickflip.

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**Author:** ![GTDropKnot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gtdropknot/32/212400_2.png) [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2529 "2024-07-21T12:07:50Z")

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Those tricks don’t score in contests bc the Yoyo isn’t spinning so it’s very doubtful we would see them. It would be insanely cool though and some competitors will do tricks that don’t score for fun and because it’s cool so there is still hope. Shoutout to Alex Curfman switch from 3A to Doubles at US nats this year. Maybe it’s up to you to make it happen though hah!

Also I’m assuming you mean in the 1A division.

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2530 "2024-07-21T12:29:26Z")

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I’m just dreaming haha. Too bad though. Would be cool to see. The scoring system is flawed. A trick is a trick. And a difficult trick or a flashy trick should definitely be worth a point or two, even if the yoyo isn’t spinning.

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**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2531 "2024-07-21T12:56:06Z")

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0a deserves to be a competitive class in yoyo contests.

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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2532 "2024-07-21T13:06:01Z")

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I would love a fixie horse comp as a staple of every competition and not just an impromptu thing that happens usually at worlds.

I don’t really need 0a in x div or allowed in 1A or anything.

I think just an activity around the style would be nest but making it part of competition directly kind of goes against the whole idea of 0A as a style especially when 0A defined in a comp setting is considered non scoring beginner tricks

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**Author:** ![Fun\_Dad69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6bbea6/32.png) [@Fun\_Dad69](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Fun_Dad69)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2533 "2024-07-21T13:30:24Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/f/7/8f75a318297209e7394c64d81808d575a01e0924.jpeg " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1wK3mfxMRU)

Here’s Ed Haponik’s routine from Scales a couple years ago.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/5/4/554d19360a2bf822fcbc6953eb92192b46dfe9de.jpeg "Kyle Nations - 1A Final - 9th Place - UYYC 2019 - Presented by Yoyo Contest Central") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faJ1Be5yelY)

Also Kyle Nations placed 9th in 1a doing 0a one time

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**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2534 "2024-07-21T14:02:08Z")

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These incredibly smooth flows are what is missing from most of the modern competitions i’ ve witnessed recently. Because the scoring is not designed to make that a major factor. So rad.

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2535 "2024-07-21T14:16:14Z")

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Those are awesome, but I guess part of what I was trying to say is that it would be cool if it was more common.

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2536 "2024-07-21T14:40:24Z")

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I kinda agree with both @Sleeper80 and @Captrogers . I would love to see an 0A competition/event, but I think it would be better to borrow from Kendama competitions. Their divisions like Speed Ladder, Open Division, Freestyle, and World Cup, and their scoring systems, would be better suited for 0A.

The problem is, I’m not sure if there are enough people interested in 0A or enough 0A players to make that worth while.

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**Author:** ![Fun\_Dad69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6bbea6/32.png) [@Fun\_Dad69](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Fun_Dad69)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2537 "2024-07-21T15:02:52Z")

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I’ve been saying this for a long time now. Not just for 0A. I think an open division broken up into different skill levels with set trick lists would be a super fun addition to contests

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/2538 "2024-07-21T19:43:37Z")

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> [@Jerrod](#):
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> And a difficult trick or a flashy trick should definitely be worth a point or two, even if the yoyo isn’t spinning.

If it is not spinning; is it still a yo-yo? Or has it become a prop?

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