# Further adventures in response systems

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/further-adventures-in-response-systems/360541
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [July 29, 2022, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/further-adventures-in-response-systems/360541 "2022-07-29T10:55:37Z")
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### Author: ![Zippy8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zippy8/32/168640_2.png) [@Zippy8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zippy8)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2022, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/further-adventures-in-response-systems/360541/1 "2022-07-29T10:55:37Z")

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Prompted by [this reply](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrid-mixed-response-systems/359927/16) in another thread, another idea in this field that came and went was Roo-Yo’s SIDROMS from the mid-2000s.

 ![6X7A8452](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/6/c/86c94c498ca3fb3b838158d9d85ef85410105380.jpeg)  
Four teeny-tiny red silicone O-rings per side, held tightly in recesses, that you could… if you _ **really** _ wanted… move up and down to tweak responsiveness.

Back when the Internet was held together with string and only slightly outperformed a carrier pigeon for speed the rumour was that the machinist had misunderstood the instructions for “grooves to hold O-rings” but this - and I trust you are all sitting down - turned out to be inaccurate information on the Internet.

 ![6X7A8461](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/0/9/f0948966248f09e8ddef5e42f2486fb5808e9f31.jpeg)

As such it combined elements of a starburst, O-rings and silicone for some sort of Response Trifecta. Regrettably it was soon replaced and I can’t recall any other manufacturer using the idea. Whilst it worked, it was~is a pig to adjust and balance properly.

 ![6X7A8462](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/e/0/3e0f98b1b2a0c52f6ca3432facecedc07000d6b7.jpeg)  
Also of note on the internals are that the KonKave bearing sits on 3 (different) O-rings. I think this is intended to damp any vibrations as they are not needed mechanically.

Oh yeah, and it has golf-ball style dimples. It’s a lovely thing.

 ![6X7A8469](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/0/c/90c85f40c2e97cf262412253f895bf5d52dbd34f.jpeg)  
 ![6X7A8471](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/7/4/074e615aa64e15a122f4eb8ff48edebc239adea8.jpeg)  
Edit: more pics. to pad things out.

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#### Post date: [July 29, 2022, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/further-adventures-in-response-systems/360541/2 "2022-07-29T11:35:27Z")

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I always wondered why we havent seen more dimple experiment throws

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### Author: ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/further-adventures-in-response-systems/360541/3 "2022-07-29T20:44:33Z")

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Ever see that episode of Myth Busters where they test whether golf ball dimples work or not by putting them all over a car? IIRC they decided that the dimples do reduce drag. So, yeah, why not add them to more yoyos?! Aside from the fact that only Dif-e-yo is set up for that kind of machining, of course. 🙂

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#### Post date: [July 29, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/further-adventures-in-response-systems/360541/4 "2022-07-29T20:51:22Z")

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That o-ring bump response reminds me a lot of the og Loop 720s. The idea being that you could use different string materials/thicknesses to adjust the responsiveness of the yoyo.

 ![Loop_720_2.JPG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/d/e/9de1dac4fe23fd03477685ab1d9ac068b4b05e56.png)  
 ![Loop_720_3.JPG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/6/5/165d5f791705734a1bad73fa842fb329c6230094.png)

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#### Post date: [July 31, 2022, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/further-adventures-in-response-systems/360541/5 "2022-07-31T09:34:26Z")

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What a throwback! Wasn’t around for that but have seen some pictures of these Loop 720s when I was getting into 2A.
