# FS/FT Steel Shutter signed by Gentry Stein (Trade Preferred) **URL:** \ **Category:** Buy / Sell / Trade\ **Created:** [March 10, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203 "2024-03-10T17:42:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/21 "2024-03-10T20:39:58Z")
You could put vinegar on yours to prove it, if you’re sure it’s not nickel ---
**Author:** ![organya1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/organya1/32/300909_2.png) [@organya1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/organya1)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/22 "2024-03-10T20:40:01Z")
I’m going to pause all trades till I can figure this out ---
**Author:** ![organya1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/organya1/32/300909_2.png) [@organya1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/organya1)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/23 "2024-03-10T20:40:18Z")
I don’t think that would be good for the yo-yo ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/24 "2024-03-10T20:41:44Z")
It would cause nickel to oxidize and darken ---
**Author:** ![organya1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/organya1/32/300909_2.png) [@organya1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/organya1)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/25 "2024-03-10T20:41:56Z")
Yeah no I don’t think I want to do that lol ---
**Author:** ![sedanthrows](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sedanthrows/32/287830_2.png) [@sedanthrows](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sedanthrows)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/26 "2024-03-10T20:42:58Z")
If it’s indeed a nickel, then this one I assume is a Bgrade? ---
**Author:** ![abellia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abellia/32/627459_2.png) [@abellia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abellia)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/27 "2024-03-10T20:43:04Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/9/1/291df415dfbd256b7081e5fd966b30be0bfe975e.jpeg) you’re all wrong, this is a nickel ---
**Author:** ![organya1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/organya1/32/300909_2.png) [@organya1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/organya1)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/28 "2024-03-10T20:44:22Z")
From what I’ve heard: All of the nickels are b-grades ---
**Author:** ![organya1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/organya1/32/300909_2.png) [@organya1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/organya1)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/29 "2024-03-10T20:44:34Z")
Because Paul dang, his girlfriend, and a car ---
**Author:** ![skysurveil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skysurveil/32/183638_2.png) [@skysurveil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skysurveil)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/30 "2024-03-10T21:23:40Z")
![1000002574](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/9/8/098d6decacd297725e9a8ae738247626acc23261.png) Yours: ![1000002572](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/3/c/e3cfd7b665076bdc0ee45ec0082e4c03043a0689.jpeg) Mine: ![1000002578](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/9/e/89e4fa0a43a7a8644417e21ba654a949a347b20b.png) Original poster’s: ![1000002576](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/2/1/f21a8c07f2a391ab4c0b8a6e3b250558bea5565f.png) Nickel plated from BST post: > [@FS: One Drop Kuntosh (Nickel) - SOLD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-one-drop-kuntosh-nickel-sold/376193): > > One Drop Kuntosh (Nickel) - $OLD Excellent condition. NMTBS. Comes with original packaging. Price includes tracked shipping worldwide. PM for additional pics / info. Thanks OneDrop released multiple hardcoat colorways based on pictures on the forums. I purchased my grey hardcoat 5kQV from OneDrop at PNWR 2016/2017, cannot recall which year. After @da5id confirmed it was the hardcoat anodizing, I remembered that’s what they called it back at PNWR. They were $100. All of these, excluding the nickel, appear to share the same texture/finish, although different colorways. All nickel plated examples I can find look quite different from ours, see linked nickel sale. Another defining characteristic is the lack of hardcoat applied to the inner catch zone due to its rough nature, similar to the bead-blasted(?) rough finish of Markmont Classics and the absence of it where string friction occurs. ![1000002582](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/6/2/26242cdb72873529ee7fadc7fe9469e3f7a3c734.png) Original poster’s: ![1000002586](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/6/d/f6dda14c7a2c821e62627cafcca82e108cf57ab0.jpeg) Mine: ![1000002580](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/d/a/0da1185e3ba2fe44cbdc4fd9d10116a19c3aa6c3.png) Lack of it on nickel plated example: ---
**Author:** ![Leschi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Leschi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Leschi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/31 "2024-03-11T01:42:26Z")
The Kuntosh you linked isn’t a QV, but the original model. Those also came in Nickel with the pyramatte tumble as opposed to the blasted QVs. You can also tell them apart by the cup and the gap. The OG Nickel one you linked has a much sharper and narrower flat design in the cup vs the QV’s rounded out and broader surface area in the cup. The rim on the QV contains the cut into rim before the dropoff into the gap, while the OG just features the plain edge. Nickel QV: [Nickel Plated Küntosh 5000QV | One Drop YoYos | Flickr](https://www.flickr.com/photos/onedropdesign/34680908795/) Tarnished QVs sold at PNWR [Küntosh 5000QV | One Drop YoYos | Flickr](https://www.flickr.com/photos/onedropdesign/32314083734/) Hardcoat QV [Küntosh 5000QV | One Drop YoYos | Flickr](https://www.flickr.com/photos/onedropdesign/33159420995/) Original Kuntosh in Nickel [Küntosh | YoYoExpert ■■■■■■■■■■■ Bird in Hand ■■■■■■■■ YoYoA… | Flickr](https://www.flickr.com/photos/onedropdesign/26583265740/) ---
**Author:** ![skysurveil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skysurveil/32/183638_2.png) [@skysurveil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skysurveil)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/32 "2024-03-11T14:09:27Z")
I am aware. I was using it as a nickel plated reference. ---
**Author:** ![organya1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/organya1/32/300909_2.png) [@organya1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/organya1)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/33 "2024-03-11T16:01:41Z")
Through a lot of analysis I’ve guaranteed that it’s one of the tarnished Nickel QV’s sold at PNWR It’s also already traded, so uh Someone nab the steel shutter :+1: ---
**Author:** ![skysurveil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skysurveil/32/183638_2.png) [@skysurveil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skysurveil)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/34 "2024-03-11T16:46:22Z")
I guess OD did misidentify mine :thinking: Thanks for the Flickr references, @Leschi ! ---
**Author:** ![organya1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/organya1/32/300909_2.png) [@organya1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/organya1)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/35 "2024-03-11T16:59:28Z")
And so the Kuntosh 5000QV mystery was solved ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/36 "2024-03-13T20:17:52Z")
Doesn’t look like nickel to me … but I’d have to see it in person to be 100% sure. ---
**Author:** ![Marioyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/marioyo/32/303068_2.png) [@Marioyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marioyo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/37 "2024-03-13T21:06:50Z")
What if this is just a heavy grit blast w/ standard anodize lol ---
**Author:** ![organya1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/organya1/32/300909_2.png) [@organya1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/organya1)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/38 "2024-03-13T21:18:33Z")
Has all of the nickel qualities Had some OD experts look at it and they say it’s nickel ---
**Author:** ![system](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/system/32/8054_2.png) [@system](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-steel-shutter-signed-by-gentry-stein-trade-preferred/396203/39 "2024-04-12T21:18:33Z")
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