# Fixed axle goodness **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [December 13, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-goodness/46516 "2012-12-13T03:26:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jhauxfan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhauxfan/32/838_2.png) [@jhauxfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhauxfan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-goodness/46516/1 "2012-12-13T03:26:25Z")
There is much love for the new trend of “Wood is Good.” So I have a question. Wood yoyos are generally accepted to sport a “fixed axle” that is made of wood. Duncan butterflys also appear to have their axle fixed.( a metal one?) What kind of difference in performance can you expect from the differing axle material and do you use cotton strings for metal axles as well? ---
**Author:** ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-goodness/46516/2 "2012-12-13T04:23:55Z")
I’m pretty sure people like wood because of the material. No only does material make a huge difference in a yoyo, but they like to enjoy the roots of yoyoing. ---
**Author:** ![ArchersAxe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@ArchersAxe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ArchersAxe)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-goodness/46516/3 "2012-12-13T05:46:17Z")
> [@Jagmcool](#): > > I’m pretty sure people like wood because of the material. No only does material make a huge difference in a yoyo, but they like to enjoy the roots of yoyoing. Haha, get it?? Trees have roots… I am also interested in this as well. I suppose using wood would allow for more of a grip when you’d give it a tug compared to a much smoother surface such as metal or plastic. ---
**Author:** ![wcrase](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wcrase/32/80_2.png) [@wcrase](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/wcrase)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-goodness/46516/4 "2012-12-13T08:23:21Z")
A metal axle requires a response system, such as the starburst in a Duncan Butterfly. Wood axle throws generally don’t require a response system because the friction of the string on the axle is enough to return it to your hand. You can use any string you like on a metal axle. The friction is low, therefore you won’t melt polyester like you would on wood. ---
**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-goodness/46516/5 "2012-12-13T11:27:24Z")
i experience a LOT more inconsistency and fragility from butterflies than from most of the good wood models. drew tetz loves a good butterfly (and so do i) but they are few and far between. for me, there’s an undeniable holistic appeal to throwing something that’s carved out of a hunk of organic matter. i find that plastic fixed axle yoyo’s tend to feel like plastic bearing yo-yo’s… which just don’t sleep very long, whereas wood has an indescribable feel that just inspires me to play. ---
**Author:** ![Adam\_Brewster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adam_brewster/32/644_2.png) [@Adam\_Brewster](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Adam_Brewster)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-goodness/46516/6 "2012-12-13T13:17:52Z")
Agreed. I’m keen to develop more of my sense of the different types of wood axles (hemlock, walnut, etc) ---
**Author:** ![wcrase](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wcrase/32/80_2.png) [@wcrase](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/wcrase)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-goodness/46516/7 "2012-12-13T14:31:40Z")
> [@edhaponik](#): > > i experience a LOT more inconsistency and fragility from butterflies than from most of the good wood models. drew tetz loves a good butterfly (and so do i) but they are few and far between. for me, there’s an undeniable holistic appeal to throwing something that’s carved out of a hunk of organic matter. i find that plastic fixed axle yoyo’s tend to feel like plastic bearing yo-yo’s… which just don’t sleep very long, whereas wood has an indescribable feel that just inspires me to play. You make a good point. Butterflies are cheap and inconsistent. You’d have to buy several to find one that plays decent. And there really is no substitute for wood.