# Fixed Axle Friday Throws

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [November 2, 2018, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546 "2018-11-02T11:36:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![djinni\_cake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/djinni_cake/32/113245_2.png) [@djinni\_cake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/djinni_cake)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1782 "2021-08-14T12:33:01Z")

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Have you checked out Doc Pop’s responsive freehand workshop on YouTube?

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#### Post date: [August 15, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1783 "2021-08-15T16:37:39Z")

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Yes. He is amazing. And I tend to drop my yo-yo every time I let go of the counterweight. This is going to take me a while to get used to.

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### Author: ![djinni\_cake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/djinni_cake/32/113245_2.png) [@djinni\_cake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/djinni_cake)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1784 "2021-08-15T16:53:46Z")

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I’m in the same boat. Still trying to just get used to not having it attached to my finger.

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### Author: ![Chaman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chaman/32/601454_2.png) [@Chaman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Chaman)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1785 "2021-08-20T19:17:41Z")

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Friday:🙃🤙🏻

 ![20210820_195817](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/3/2/3328324158cc536e9adfa959b1b5964ca1ec1f8f.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1786 "2021-08-20T20:21:07Z")

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Summer is still here so I’m still on a Vintage Butterfly kick. However, this one is a step child to Butterfly history, which would eventually give birth to one of Today’s most dominate yoyo companies. This is an early 80’s Pro Spin Stinger from none other than [Donald F. Duncan Jr. Sales & Promotions](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=1986) which eventually became Playmaxx out of Arizona. This one weights in at 42 grams and requires some finesse because it feels as cheep as it looks. It does and can jam some 0A, as the Starburst responds tightly and since it requires a slight of hand, it has opened up some creative doors of play for me. It definitely reminds me that I really do enjoy yoyoing, Happy Fixed Axle Friday.

 ![DSCF4590](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/8/0/880f9542dd7566fa09fcb71c0880ed84511bd3f6.jpeg)

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#### Post date: [August 20, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1787 "2021-08-20T20:28:46Z")

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Another fantastic post @Exmime:clap:

Your last post inspired me to purchase a blackbird No.19 for myself (originally I was unaware that a butterfly shaped blackbird existed) and it did not disappoint. Played pretty good stock right out of the box, string and all. Happy to have it in my collection.

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#### Post date: [August 20, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1788 "2021-08-20T22:00:18Z")

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Gee, Spain looks beautiful.

Australia looks like dead grass, gnarly heat smashed trees and red dirt.

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### Author: ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1789 "2021-08-20T23:27:58Z")

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#fixedfriday = pizza night

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### Author: ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1790 "2021-08-27T17:14:44Z")

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> [@edhaponik](#):
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> “1955 National Yoyo Contest” reboot they held at Worlds in 2010 or so emceed by Dale O and Bob Rule.

Speaking of Bob Rule, Here is a great quote from Bob from [www.yoyomuseum.com](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=2672) regarding the advancements in yo-yos that were his favorite to see [over his lifetime].

“Probably the advancement I see the most is the Butterfly invented by Wayne Lunberg. I called it a ‘bicycle with training wheels’ but had to accept it as it helped the players advance in skill so fast.”

10 years prior to the [Stinger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1786) was the Original Dragonfly by Festival and endorsed by Bob Rule. It weights in at 41grams and is a lot lighter than the [Flambeau Duncan Butterflys](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1717) from the same time period. However being closer in weight to the Pro Spin Stinger, it’s weight distribution makes it feel a little heavier in play. This particular one is mint, so it still plays fresh and crisp with no oxidization on the axle for its age. Set up with some cheap bulk poly and I’m enjoying some 0A this Friday morning.

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### Author: ![chrismacg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@chrismacg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrismacg)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1791 "2021-08-27T19:44:44Z")

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I’m super happy to have this pair of No Jives in my collection.

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### Author: ![FireMind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/firemind/32/122767_2.png) [@FireMind](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FireMind)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1792 "2021-08-27T22:54:37Z")

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![20210827_174727](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/a/e/cae062d4da3efe269374dc22d088ee7e0a355e40.jpeg)  
Happy Friday yall! Kicking it a little more old school today with one of my No Jives. Theres just a nostalgic childlike joyfulness I get when throwing TK stuff. Will forever be my favorite brand

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#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1793 "2021-09-03T21:27:03Z")

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> [@Exmime](#):
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> “Probably the advancement I see the most is the Butterfly invented by Wayne Lunberg. I called it a ‘bicycle with training wheels’ but had to accept it as it helped the players advance in skill so fast.”  
> Bob Rule

This quote from Bob Rule has really had me perplexed all week being such a Butterfly fanboy. I quess there becomes a time when you have to take the “Training Wheels” off. So I’ve been getting after it this Friday with this 1998 BC era Tom Kuhn No Jive Sunburst Mandala and trying to not fall off the bicycle. Playing my string length a little shorter to incorporate some more looping within my 0A tricks.

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#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1794 "2021-09-03T22:21:37Z")

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For a time pro demonstrators definitely looked at wide profiles with the same disdain that fixed axle purists looked at bearings in the late 90’s. But it also became apparent pretty quick that kids would stick with yo-yoing longer with that particular feature (much like said ball bearings later on), which sells more throws and expands our little universe. A crutch isn’t bad if you NEED it. And now of course those things are the standard. It’s how the game changes.

I remember one time I sent Augie Fash a clean machine and asked how he wanted it setup & tuned. He said “my mind says butterfly but my heart says imperial.” I’ve always related to that a bit.

For years I believed that if I could get GOOD enough, anything I could hit unresponsive I should be able to hit fixed. Eventually I realized that to “get good” really means playing in harmony with the hardware rather than in spite of it. Like the guitarist Joe Pass said “When the chord changes, you should change.”

Seems obvious but it’s about the hardest thing in the world.

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#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1795 "2021-09-03T23:58:09Z")

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I have a BC laminate yoyo with identical shape to this and I don’t fit it too hard to use for modern 0A. That curve over from the gap helps a lot.

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#### Post date: [September 3, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1796 "2021-09-03T23:59:52Z")

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> [@edhaponik](#):
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> For years I believed that if I could get GOOD enough, anything I could hit unresponsive I should be able to hit fixed. Eventually I realized that to “get good” really means playing in harmony with the hardware rather than in spite of it.

I can really see this change in your understanding in the evolution of your tricks over the past decade.

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#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1797 "2021-09-04T04:06:25Z")

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So I recently got the Weekender and really enjoying responsive. And I really like the idea of wooden yoyo. Does anyone have any experience with this throw?

 ![Screenshot_20210904-130452_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/b/e/0be40d1abd4f566f2b218de037b71d9f14115d0b.jpeg)  
Duncan butterfly wood

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#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1798 "2021-09-04T04:10:13Z")

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I’ve posted mine in this thread a few times, its what the AL Butterfly is based on.

> [@Fixed Axle Friday Throws](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1763):
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> Back on some Butterfly retrospective. Today’s is this 2016 Reproduction Butterfly compared to a couple of the originals from the early sixties. The reproductions are three piece instead of one piece, so this one had to be re-glued at one point and its still holding together. Also notice its a bit smaller and rounder, more like the AL Butterflies with C bearings, there are no silver sparkles, the logo is bigger and centered, and there is also modern ARGHH manufacturing 5 letter stamp like you see…

> [@Fixed Axle Friday Throws](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/48):
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> Today’s #fixedaxlefriday throw is a 2016 reproduction of a 1958 Duncan Butterfly woodie before they went to plastic in 1968. This one is slimmer than the plastic and comes in at 51grams. The response is just rough wood not as sanded as the rest of the body and uncoated. [20181130\_060826] [20181130\_061020]

> [@Fixed Axle Friday Throws](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1266):
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> So much talk last week about gluing axles, it reminded me I have a few to repair. Did this one last Saturday with a Gorilla Glue Pen and have been playing it all week and it’s holding up strong even as an EDC. This is a 2016 Duncan reproduction of the original 1958 wooden Butterfly. The AL Butterfly shares alot of the same profile design relative to the current [plastic production](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/137) Butterfly. For the @EOS44 question [What would you choose?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/general-yoyo-thoughts/307204/1469) it’s a lot of fun to shred a similar yoyo from 1958 with to…

Kyle Nations @Chainsawctopus is also playing one in his Bandalores debut back in 2018, though he put A-RT stickers on the sides.

[https://www.instagram.com/p/BnW95eUnCVO/?utm\_medium=copy\_link](https://www.instagram.com/p/BnW95eUnCVO/?utm_medium=copy_link)

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#### Post date: [September 4, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1799 "2021-09-04T13:52:49Z")

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Ok so totally a viable throw. I really want a tmbr made from oak. But maybe this will be a good in the mean time throw. Thanks!

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#### Post date: [September 5, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1800 "2021-09-05T14:19:35Z")

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I shot these on Friday, but I’m just now getting around to posting them.

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#### Post date: [September 5, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1801 "2021-09-05T14:27:20Z")

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Jeez dude those are great shots. You really captured that oak PockeHt grain and love the rainbow swirl!!!

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