# Fixed Axle Friday Throws **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [November 2, 2018, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546 "2018-11-02T11:36:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 197
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3978 "2025-03-01T00:20:13Z")
Did you try double looping? ---
**Author:** ![spyder-man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spyder-man/32/599092_2.png) [@spyder-man](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/spyder-man)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3979 "2025-03-01T00:50:34Z")
I did try double looping on one of the strings - don’t remember which one, and then had zero sleep. Instant back. 🤷🏻‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3980 "2025-03-01T00:54:41Z")
I used Alphaline mostly double looped IIRC. Make sure to twist in the same direction as the twist of the string. If it’s too responsive, give a little tug on the string and rock it back and forth around the axle. The second thing to try is to play it like that for a few minutes, or torqued up, then undo that and see if the response is better. ---
**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3981 "2025-03-01T01:16:24Z")
so ill just tell you what worked for me to help it click. now that you describe that, i do remember having that problem, with fixies in general. Keith mentioned where I’d start i am personally on the alphaline train. when you put on a new string or you have to remove it for some reason, you need to start by cranking up the torsion a good bit and play it, even just playing catch, for like 10-15 min. thatll cause the loop threads to sorta fuse. you can then back the torsion off as needed this leads to the next point. torsion in fixie isnt like it is in unresponsive. in unresponsive you always want neutral torsion. in fixie its dependant on what you are doing. if you’re doing tricks that require some snappiness, like planet hops, add some torsion. if you want some sleep time release some of the torsion one of the tricks to learning the finesse of fixie is working with a flexible and dynamic torsion state. once i started using my torsion to dial in the response, it all started going much better. play with that some and lemme know if that helps at all ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3982 "2025-03-01T01:33:57Z")
Hard agree. I stopped double looping my Butterflies (and stopped replacing the axles with wood) because I learned that it was necessary to actively manage the torsion. ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3983 "2025-03-01T04:03:20Z")
Whatever works, go with it. For what it’s worth, this is what I do… I’ve been using Kitty Fat string(because I already have a lot of it). When I put on a new string, I double loop the axle. When/if it becomes more responsive than I like, I take out the extra loop. This has always worked for me so I haven’t tried other methods. I prefer to maintain neutral torsion. ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3984 "2025-03-01T04:30:12Z")
Last hours of FAF on FAF and I’ve broke three strings. ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3985 "2025-03-01T05:42:54Z")
Got this in today. Ed Davidson “Bee- Yo”. Apologies for the horrid lighting, everyone is asleep so it’s literally lit by my TV screen lol Australian Red Ironbark. 70 grams. Sounds heavy but the design makes it perfection to me. ![1000004053](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/2/2/922f9ac52dd64e0cae9e4f87b7d8e289f4a35551.jpeg) ![1000004052](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/2/5/22533be8ffa74047286d7f6b857c3217e1f39b59.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Drifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drifter/32/310696_2.png) [@Drifter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Drifter)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3986 "2025-03-01T07:29:24Z")
I’m Cuckoo for Duncan Puffs! ![IMG_20250228_232652](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/7/e/57e1763b99196c915e6f5333790b2e52ba6cf708.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Yodaddyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yodaddyo/32/602050_2.png) [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3987 "2025-03-01T13:54:07Z")
Those engravings are so effin coool! ---
**Author:** ![Yodaddyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yodaddyo/32/602050_2.png) [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3988 "2025-03-01T13:58:32Z")
Have you tried chapstick on the axle loop? I know a lot of great players disagree with the use of chapstick, but I stand by it. Without it, I experience the same unpredictability in response that you expressed. Also, with butterflies, I usually play with neutral tension right from the start. I do have some wood throws that I have to crank the tension up on my cotton string, when it’s new, then slowly back it off. But with butterfly, alphaline, and chapstick, I can start neutral and stay that way. ---
**Author:** ![MinerJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/minerj/32/629515_2.png) [@MinerJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MinerJ)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3989 "2025-03-01T14:02:15Z")
That is truly gorgeous. ---
**Author:** ![MinerJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/minerj/32/629515_2.png) [@MinerJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MinerJ)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3990 "2025-03-01T14:06:36Z")
I’m a total noob, but just a tiny bit of chapstick on Kitty fat seems to give me consistent return on butterflies and my 3D printed steel axle fixies. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3991 "2025-03-01T16:04:44Z")
I saw that one on his site and was marveling at it! Incredible ---
**Author:** ![spyder-man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spyder-man/32/599092_2.png) [@spyder-man](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/spyder-man)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3992 "2025-03-01T20:40:13Z")
You chapstick guys, any particular brand? Just rub the axle end on the chapstick head and then string it up like normal? ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3993 "2025-03-01T20:49:58Z")
I usually use a drop of thick lube on the end of the string instead because it’s less messy and doesn’t waste my good chapstick. I like nano oil 85 weight or superlube. I have heard beeswax chapsticks are usually the best type though for proper chapsticking. ---
**Author:** ![davis25565](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/davis25565/32/226040_2.png) [@davis25565](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/davis25565)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3994 "2025-03-02T01:39:49Z")
Ive been using burts bees vanilla :joy: i gotta try find something different thats a little thicker / more viscous. ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/3995 "2025-03-02T01:58:04Z")
If you have a yoyo that won’t respond, a healthy dose of this will fix it. Best chapstick for response in my opinion. Has to be the comfort care. ![1000004060](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/7/b/a7b8cafa6f7dd8d40ed699d70a87e933ebeba732.jpeg) ---
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