# First Time Looper **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [December 3, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-time-looper/295860 "2018-12-03T22:05:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-time-looper/295860/1 "2018-12-03T22:05:55Z")
My 12yo son wants a looper for Christmas. He can do some 1A. Is the 1080 good to start on, or is there a better choice for a 1st, 2a yo-yo? ---
**Author:** ![kksimon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kksimon/32/46108_2.png) [@kksimon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kksimon)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-time-looper/295860/2 "2018-12-03T22:56:15Z")
No, don’t start on the 1080. That is what I got and I’m not a fan. After a while they became semi responsive and stalled at the end of each loop. To fix them I think I would needed to clean the bearing and lube before every practice session. The 720s with the red spacer is what I use now. That would be the yoyo I recommend. Be sure to buy the one with red spacers as it will stay responsive unlike the 1080s. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-time-looper/295860/3 "2018-12-05T04:22:12Z")
I was looking at the looping yo-yos, and realized that the yo-yo I meant to ask about is the new 2020… ---
**Author:** ![kksimon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kksimon/32/46108_2.png) [@kksimon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kksimon)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-time-looper/295860/4 "2018-12-05T04:27:09Z")
All good. I don’t own the 2020s (yet… hoping for a pair for christmas) but I wouldnt start with them because of the temptation to edit your setup rather then practice more. Most of 2a is practice and the 720s are great. I doubt he will need an upgrade unless he wants to compete. Hope this helps!😁 ---
**Author:** ![gcoomans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gcoomans/32/25166_2.png) [@gcoomans](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gcoomans)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-time-looper/295860/5 "2018-12-05T04:32:45Z")
I agree with @kksimon I just started looping and it’s good to have yoyo’s that are relatively low maintenance. Loop 2020 looks fantastic though! ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-time-looper/295860/6 "2018-12-05T14:51:19Z")
So I need the Japan edition? The USA ones available say “Green Spacer Edition”… ---
**Author:** ![kksimon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kksimon/32/46108_2.png) [@kksimon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kksimon)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-time-looper/295860/7 "2018-12-05T15:43:17Z")
Yes the Japan edition are the ones with the red spacers. The USA versions will not. The glow 720s also come with the red spacers. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-time-looper/295860/8 "2018-12-05T16:34:49Z")
Cool, thanks for the help!