# First Metal Help **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [August 18, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075 "2010-08-18T03:30:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Udderpunch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Udderpunch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Udderpunch)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/1 "2010-08-18T03:30:00Z")
Hey guys, I would appreciate the help. Convinced my girl to let me blow around 70 on a new yo. This will be my first all metal yo - so it HAS to be good to me. I only do tricks for fun and to impress. I’m only working on 1A. I’ve got very limited good yoyo experience, so any advice would be appreciated. I’ve only played with a Lyn Fury and a DM. The yoyo’s I’m looking at are below, but if there are others in the price range I should consider, please let me know. The yo with the most votes will likely be the one I get 🙂 Protoge Yuuksta California If they had the DV888’s in stock I would snatch one at the price. I haven’t played with enough yoyo’s to tell you what feel I like. Between the Lyn and the DM I prefer the DM (big shock), but it feels a bit too big to me and it vibes a bit. I’m still practicing advanced 1/2 tricks. Any help would be super appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/2 "2010-08-18T05:26:30Z")
Eh… your preferances? Shape, size, weight, response, color, grinding surface? ---
**Author:** ![crazyoyow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@crazyoyow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/crazyoyow)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/3 "2010-08-18T05:41:22Z")
The dv888s not in stock right now? oh… good thing i snatched one at the special summer price. Anyways… I think the yuuksta looks like a good yoyo. undersize, h-shape ---
**Author:** ![yoyoFRReeak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofrreeak/32/621_2.png) [@yoyoFRReeak](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoFRReeak)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/4 "2010-08-18T14:01:29Z")
I recommend the protege its rim weighted so you will get long spin times. Its undersized. But really thats what i would pick its all your preferences. I havent played with the Yuksta but the other two are really nice. ---
**Author:** ![Udderpunch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Udderpunch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Udderpunch)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/5 "2010-08-18T18:36:28Z")
I like a bit of heft to my throw. Like I said I think the DM is a bit too big, but that might just be due to the sharp sides. I’m definitely looking for long spin times with less vibe. Generally I like the size of the Lyn Fury over the DM, but I could go a bit bigger. Don’t know if that helps. ---
**Author:** ![x52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/3bc359/32.png) [@x52](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/x52)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/6 "2010-08-18T19:02:00Z")
Yes, it helps a lot. I really think you should get a Yuuksta or a Protege. The Yuuksta uses a Center-Trac, that centers the string, and offers it better balance. But it has sharp rims. The Protege uses a SPEC and has good balance, and is undersized but doesn’t have sharp rims. According to what you said, I think you should really get a Protege. :wink: Hope this helps you decide what’s best. ---
**Author:** ![Udderpunch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Udderpunch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Udderpunch)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/7 "2010-08-18T21:40:53Z")
what are the benefits to the h shape over the more straight that the protege has? And has anyone thrown a yuuksta? They are new so I’m wondering. It looks like the protege is a bit wider which might help me land trapeze more consistently. (still practicing) I have a “c” center track bearing already, so getting a “free” one with the yuuk isn’t a huge advantage, but would allow me to keep it in my DM. It’s lame to admit, but I do like the acid wash look of the yuuk more… But if the protege is a better throw I’ll definitely go with it. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/8 "2010-08-19T05:12:38Z")
Well, an H shape, like a yuuksta, has a longerish spinning time. Generally, they are more stable, and play heavier. I have a genesis, which is kinda like a yuuksta, I think, and I really don’t like it since it plays too heavy to me. However, you said you liked to have weight in your throw, so a Yuuksta might work better for you than a protege. If I’m to describe the genesis, it’s like throwing a rock around, it’s stable, solid, and harder to move, which is why I don’t like it. I like a little floatier, and bouncier in feel. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoz1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoz1/32/388_2.png) [@yoyoz1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoz1)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/9 "2010-08-19T13:56:23Z")
Go for the Yuuksta, but if you want something more round (not H shape) you could also try the Icon. ---
**Author:** ![Udderpunch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Udderpunch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Udderpunch)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/10 "2010-08-19T21:32:34Z")
allright, I think I’m going to go with the yuuksta. LAST MINUTE SUGGESTIONS MUST BE NAO!!! thanks everyone who posted, helps a lot. ---
**Author:** ![thrower121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b4bc9f/32.png) [@thrower121](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/thrower121)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/11 "2010-08-19T21:34:15Z")
yuuksta ---
**Author:** ![Udderpunch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Udderpunch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Udderpunch)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-metal-help/18075/12 "2010-08-19T21:50:20Z")
bought a yuuk, thanks everyone!