# First Clyw decisions
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [March 10, 2013, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597 "2013-03-10T03:40:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@Zer0F3AR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zer0F3AR)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2013, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/1 "2013-03-10T03:40:16Z")
I like a non-massive (50-55) throw thats round. Ive decided on either a gnarwhal or a canvas. Can you give me your thoughts on either of the two adrressing things like stability, smoothness, floatiness, how solid it is? Feel free to recommend me anyother clyw throw based on my preferences.
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### Author:  [@Zer0F3AR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zer0F3AR)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/2 "2013-03-11T01:52:56Z")
anyone?
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### Author:  [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/A_Soviet_Locust)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/3 "2013-03-11T01:57:55Z")
Canvas is a great yoyo, but it’s not one you fall in love with immediately. I’d say you be best off with the other yoyo you chose, the Gnarwhal. It’s small, but is still a great player.
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### Author:  [@supbreh1234](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/supbreh1234)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/4 "2013-03-11T03:05:05Z")
Gnarwhal is alot more simple and easier to like in my opinion. Foolproof.
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### Author:  [@Feruvox](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Feruvox)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/5 "2013-03-11T03:37:40Z")
The canvas is legit but it is unforgivable. Puffin is solid not sure if that fits ur description cuz i forgot it already.
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/6 "2013-03-11T03:45:51Z")
Can’t forget about the bvm2 since that’s undersized I believe. At least hte original was
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### Author:  [@Yonut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yonut)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/7 "2013-03-11T04:09:41Z")
> [@sparhawk](#):
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> Can’t forget about the bvm2 since that’s undersized I believe. At least hte original was
It is 55mm ish.
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### Author:  [@Sanchez202](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sanchez202)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/8 "2013-03-11T04:24:03Z")
> [@sparhawk](#):
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> Can’t forget about the bvm2 since that’s undersized I believe. At least hte original was
It’s slightly oversized at 56.5 mm. A friend of mine has one.
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### Author:  [@Elluzion](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elluzion)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/9 "2013-03-11T04:25:25Z")
I wouldnt get either, but if you are stuck between the two id go for a gnarwhal… Avalanche and chief are awesome…
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### Author:  [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/10 "2013-03-11T04:28:18Z")
Avalanche is probably my favourite but I think it’s just outside your size range.
Yuki
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### Author:  [@JonQ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JonQ)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/11 "2013-03-11T05:05:39Z")
Sounds to me the puffin is what you want! Fits your needs it’s stable, smooth, pretty floaty, super solid. Has a round shape and it’s like 53mm.
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### Author:  [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2013, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/first-clyw-decisions/50597/12 "2013-03-11T06:14:59Z")
> [@JonQ](#):
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> Sounds to me the puffin is what you want! Fits your needs it’s stable, smooth, pretty floaty, super solid. Has a round shape and it’s like 53mm.
Puffin is great. So is Gnarwhal, but the Puffin feels at the same time both more floaty and more stable. I think the Gnarwhal feels more solid on throws and is more “adjustable” on the fly (it responds well to being re-oriented if it goes off-axis, but that’s also usually a sign of less general stability).